Grade 'No Good Deed'

[PerfectAnomaly]

Other actresses do much more demanding work when they are as pregnant as Anna Belknap. I'm sick of people using excuses for TPTB's lack of development for the character. They wouldn't have to have her doing much to make her a part of the story line. Alll she'd have to do is speak and act like a first time expectant, single, professional mother would and have the story line focus on her reactions to the situation as much as they do on Danny's. That's hardly demanding. Well, for as poor of an actress as Anna Belknap is it's probably asking too much.

Random thought #3: Lindsay needs to stuff a sandwich or two down Danny's throat. Carmine was looking pretty damn skinny in this episode.

 

[roximonoxide]

I do find it increasingly hilarious that they've all but ignored Lindsay in this story line. She's nothing more than an incubator for Danny's baby. They used her to explain why she can work in the lab without harming the baby. They used her to show Danny coming to terms with being surprised by being a father. They could have easily had a recurring character (*coughcough*Rikki*coughcough*) play this role if they were determined to make Danny a father. Hell, at this point they should drop Anna Belknap from the opening credits and make her recurring. She's obviously not important to the story line beyond that.

I have to take the logical road here. I think 90% of her lack of storyline is because Anna is so pregnant. You saw how big she was last night, it's extremely difficult to work long days when you are that size. Considering, most TV shows film an episode in 14 days, and the shoots go from 12 to 16 hours. I can't blame her for not being able to do it.

I don't think its that they don't have the storylines, I think it's that she literally cant do the work.

Ive noticed that as she gets bigger, the less she appears in the episodes.

Well, you're right, but I think you've missed what PA is saying. I don't meant to put words into PerfectAnomaly's mouth by any means, but what I think shes commenting on is not why Anna is being shelved more while she's knocked up. That goes without saying. We might even be so lucky as to get a few episodes without her like we did last time she was pregnant.

I think what's being said is that even when she IS there she's not a vital character in The Story of Danny's Baby. Which is pretty amusing considering she's the baby mama. The writer's haven't bothered to try giving us her POV on the story and it's likely because #1) she doesn't pull the ratings Danny stories do, and #2) she might just be under qualified. The fact that she was actually going to be pregnant for these episodes was foreseen well in advance and they knew they'd be doing less "action" stuff with her, by which I mean Lindsay in the field, but they didn't use that as an opportunity to further develop her character, or show signs of changes in her character now that she's carrying a child. They've had nothing interesting to say about her or through her. Shes just there. Carrying his kid. Which I think makes a pretty loud statement about anyone's interest in the character, be it the writers or Anna's. They gave everything interesting about this plot (which isn't much to begin with, I might add) to Danny, which seems like a strong commentary on what somebody thinks of her ability as an actress or the quality of the Lindsay character. And if they were just looking for an "incubator", as PA so aptly put it, to carry Danny's child to term, anyone, any reoccuring character, any actoress would have sufficed and we'd be no better or worse off.

 

[PerfectAnomaly]

^^^^
Exactly. Although I stand by the fact that Anna isn't "too pregnant" to work. A lot of women work right up until their due date. It might not be easy, but they still do it. And Anna is still working, so the "too pregnant" excuse just doesn't fly. How can an actress be "too pregnant" to play a pregnant woman?? :wtf: The fact that TPTB is ignoring Lindsay in this storyline screams lack of faith in the actress and lack of interest in the character.

 

[Ghawazee]

A++++++ (does it exist??):drool:

The case was just a mere excuse to the greatest Smacked episode so far. Yes, we didn't have a kiss, hug or any flufly scene. However the greatness of this episode lies on the marvelous of Mac and Stella's relationship

See? That's why i want them together. They know so well to each other!
They know their mutual weaknesses, their flaws, their virtues, their emotions.
You don't need to share a bed with somebody to know him/her the way they know each other

They allow themselves to show their mutual feelings and emotions. To show themselves naked.
Could you find they other people? NO. The things they shared in the past will never be got by any man or any woman

And things are changing, it's LIFE. :thumbsup:

This is what i wrote inside the Smacked Family Thread

"*LOVE the heart-to-heart conversations Mac and Stella had on this eppy. It has been a year since we had those in "Taxi" when they talked about Reed

*Stella's face changed twice: one when they were talking about the case walking through the corridor and he said something "she really felt in love with this guy..yadda yadda yadda" Those words were the trigger which pushed Stella to ask him about Ella "You never finish your story"
"What story"
"Ella"

"You know me too long" Mac said to Stella and she answered "You don't forget that". This is the second time she said so to him . First time was when he told her she was a good friend because she saved Adam's job in 5.06

"Every time i have met this young woman she has been crying" (Mac)

"And very cleverly she...a way to your life" (Stella)

"You really cared about her" this was the second time when you can notice a change in Stella's face. She looked almost dissapointed or sad

"Move on!" "If you open that door, what's next""You can't save the world"

"I know. I know. I an understand that. I guess i just needed to hear it from you"

C'mon this was the best they ever had. They put their heart on the table to talk about this psycho chick who will be a HUGE problem at some point

It delighted me the closeness between them. It is far beyond anything i ould imagine. Being them a couple couldn't have it done much better than last night.
Their body languages also talked about closeness. And Stella's smile when she heard Mac's words "I needed to hear it from you":drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

It was so incredible SMACked this episode i can't believe they have done it!

Sorry but i do think Ella is creepy and a psycho. I wonder what she will do net. Hopefully Stella will kick her butt. Mac, obviously, is a victim of his silly heart. I think he should reconsider his position as the Highest ranked CSI:vulcan: Stella was THE BOSS during the whole episode, not Mac. His previous record with Ethan doesn't help him at all
MAC!!---> "What's next":vulcan: (Not from Stella but from ME!) It's obvious to me Ella has printed "Insane" all over her forehead
OMG It was all SMACKED!!!!!! (something was broken inside Stella when she said he really cared about psycho chick Stella is really in love with him:drool:

I found remarkable as well ADAM:lol::lol::lol: i won't never forget his bird dance:guffaw: That scene with Mac through the window was hilarious:guffaw: And his scenes with Mac and Stella too

Flack---> Donnie!:guffaw: we can't live without his precious witty comments:guffaw: i wacthed Till Death do us part when Aiden and Stella called him "Scary Cat" and "Chicken" and i found hilarious how it was his time for revenge regarding the bird:guffawpoor Stella, victim of bad jokes:guffaw

My STELLA---> love it how she is connected to her Greek side. Thanks to Athen how translated what she said inside teh Stellarina Thread "''The damn thing ruined my coffee'' .Loved her last scene with the chick at the hospital:thumbsup: Loved how she was the BOSS. It's something it's been very common this season: Stella looks more The Boss than Mac. Probably because Mac is softer after his encounter with Death in Veritas

Lindsay---> would you go straith to the point ????? PLEASE

Danny---> Hilarious his scene with Mac but Mac DOES NOT need Viagra. Talk by yourself baby:guffaw:

And Sorry! i don't want to offend anyone but the previous scene with Danny touching Lindsay's belly when the baby kicked was sweet
BUT this time it was completely UNPROFESSIONAL:wtf: Once it's ok, twice is wrong and a third time would deserve a call to attention:wtf:

Hawkes----> may you work with Stell please? I love you when you work with her:drool:

I can't continue. I need to study but i LOVED this episode with all my heart. The heart of the episode was the relationship between two people who know each other much more any other

LOVE CSI NY!

Debbie

 

[Izod1360]

I gave the episode an A+

I thought it was much better than last weeks epi and during this episode, I found myself laughing... A LOT:lol: I loved the Danny and Flack scene with the apartment owner.... priceless. Adam mimicking the birds was hilarious. When Danny offered Mac the cream; my mind went in the gutter:devil: And I couldn't stop laughing. When they kept on showing the eye, I kept on thinking about how fake it looked! And WHY did they have to keep on showing the dead body?! It's looks like Anna is about to pop anytime. I can't believe Mac didn't listen to Stella when she told him to stop worrying about Ella:scream: She's CRAZY Mac!!!!

 

[La_Guera]

This is why TPTB need to remove themselves from fan boards posthaste. The fanservice has gotten completely out of control, and I'm not just talking about the sublime awfulness of the baby-shaped DL shoehorn. I love Adam Ross. I want to see him developed and brought into his own.

I do not, however, want to see him acting like an imbecile for the sake of fan pandering. Adam Ross is shy and quirky, but he shouldn't be behaving as if he'd indulged in a hashish suppository, as he was in various scenes with Mac and Danny. Why is reserved, highly intelligent Adam suddenly reduced to a bumbling stoner? It's not funny or endearing or cute; it's insulting to the character fans expect to see. If this is TPTB's idea of cutting-edge character development, then they can just stop and return Flack to his regular spot in the rotation. At least he doesn't need to act like a sugar-buzzed middle-schooler to be "funny".

So, I guess the Ella storyline is all wrapped up now? With one lame, self-congratulatory speech, Mac has cured her of her dangerous obsession? Why don't you just rechristen him Jesus Christ and be done with it? That speech was nauseating in its false humility and reeked of self-aggrandizement. Of course Mac was the only one in the universe who knew just what to say to his grieving friend, and of course Mac was manly enough to cry. Stop. Just stop. There's a good man, and then there are impossible men, and Mac has reached that point and then some. No one is this good. Even fictional people need flaws to be interesting. Otherwise, you're just watching someone's masturbatory fantasy. Mac is clearly Gary Sinise's daydream for his visits with the bishop, and I'm tired of watching it. People who write characters like this on the Internet are called Suethors; people who write them on television are employed and handsomely paid. The WTF, it burns.

The case was so dull that I was tempted to change the channel and watch Top Chef instead, and I was glad when it was over and even gladder when I remembered that I didn't have to suffer next week. It's too bad, because it started out so well, even if it did crib elements from CSI Vegas for its opening. I'm tired of watching underdeveloped episodes hastily and poorly shored up with shameless, wink-wink-nudge-nudge bouts of fan pandering.

F-

 

[Ghawazee]

La Guera, loved your comments as usual however let me give your opinion on psycho chick case

So, I guess the Ella storyline is all wrapped up now? With one lame, self-congratulatory speech, Mac has cured her of her dangerous obsession? Why don't you just rechristen him Jesus Christ and be done with it? That speech was nauseating in its false humility and reeked of self-aggrandizement. Of course Mac was the only one in the universe who knew just what to say to his grieving friend, and of course Mac was manly enough to cry. Stop. Just stop. There's a good man, and then there are impossible men, and Mac has reached that point and then some. No one is this good. Even fictional people need flaws to be interesting. Otherwise, you're just watching someone's masturbatory fantasy. Mac is clearly Gary Sinise's daydream for his visits with the bishop, and I'm tired of watching it. People who write characters like this on the Internet are called Suethors; people who write them on television are employed and handsomely paid. The WTF, it burns.

The problem here is Mac NEVER realized how dangerous Ella was. Stella needed 10 seconds to realize she is insane. So he still believes she is healthy, cured, whatever the word you want to use. Probably he thinks she only suffered a soft trauma

But she will continue, her last comment made it obvious she needed a straitjacket ASAP

She is creepy and open a world of possibilities

debbie

 

[La_Guera]

La Guera, loved your comments as usual however let me give your opinion on psycho chick case

So, I guess the Ella storyline is all wrapped up now? With one lame, self-congratulatory speech, Mac has cured her of her dangerous obsession? Why don't you just rechristen him Jesus Christ and be done with it? That speech was nauseating in its false humility and reeked of self-aggrandizement. Of course Mac was the only one in the universe who knew just what to say to his grieving friend, and of course Mac was manly enough to cry. Stop. Just stop. There's a good man, and then there are impossible men, and Mac has reached that point and then some. No one is this good. Even fictional people need flaws to be interesting. Otherwise, you're just watching someone's masturbatory fantasy. Mac is clearly Gary Sinise's daydream for his visits with the bishop, and I'm tired of watching it. People who write characters like this on the Internet are called Suethors; people who write them on television are employed and handsomely paid. The WTF, it burns.

The problem here is Mac NEVER realized how dangerous Ella was. Stella needed 10 seconds to realize she is insane. So he still believes she is healthy, cured, whatever the word you want to use. Probably he thinks she only suffered a soft trauma

But she will continue, her last comment made it obvious she needed a straitjacket ASAP

She is creepy and open a world of possibilities

debbie

That doesn't change the fact that the writers have created yet another scenario in which Mac was Teh Greatest EVER, an emotional savant(and oh, isn't that funny, considering how claustrophobic Mac is with his own emotions) who knew just what to say to his grieving friend. Mac was once again the hero in a room full of mouth-breathers, and it's getting very, very old.

 

[Faylinn]

La Guera said:

I do not, however, want to see him acting like an imbecile for the sake of fan pandering. Adam Ross is shy and quirky, but he shouldn't be behaving as if he'd indulged in a hashish suppository, as he was in various scenes with Mac and Danny. Why is reserved, highly intelligent Adam suddenly reduced to a bumbling stoner? It's not funny or endearing or cute; it's insulting to the character fans expect to see. If this is TPTB's idea of cutting-edge character development, then they can just stop and return Flack to his regular spot in the rotation. At least he doesn't need to act like a sugar-buzzed middle-schooler to be "funny".

I see what you're saying, but I don't necessarily agree. I think Adam has always been like that - although they only show it from time to time, and I don't think they usually show it as much in one episode.

I think it shows a certain comfort level with characters like Mac and Danny that Adam can be a bit of a dork around them, moreso than with the others.

 

[Ghawazee]

C'mon go soft on poor Mac (i love him as much i do with Stella. I can't help it) It you think carefully the writer thought the same because he put Stella saying " You can't save the world" or something similar

Besides, he wasn't a saviour. Ella pretends to be ok but she is not. He will learn he can't save the world if Ella does something stupid. And i think he spoke more from his own feelings than hers. I mean thjey way he think she is feeling, how he conceives her feelings and emotions.

Its' a problem because he is the boss but it's the second time he believes in psychos (first Ethan and now Ella)

Debbie

 

[La_Guera]

La Guera said:

I do not, however, want to see him acting like an imbecile for the sake of fan pandering. Adam Ross is shy and quirky, but he shouldn't be behaving as if he'd indulged in a hashish suppository, as he was in various scenes with Mac and Danny. Why is reserved, highly intelligent Adam suddenly reduced to a bumbling stoner? It's not funny or endearing or cute; it's insulting to the character fans expect to see. If this is TPTB's idea of cutting-edge character development, then they can just stop and return Flack to his regular spot in the rotation. At least he doesn't need to act like a sugar-buzzed middle-schooler to be "funny".

I see what you're saying, but I don't necessarily agree. I think Adam has always been like that - although they only show it from time to time, and I don't think they usually show it as much in one episode.


I think it shows a certain comfort level with characters like Mac and Danny that Adam can be a bit of a dork around them, moreso than with the
others.

Honestly, Adam struck me as anything but comfortable when he started snarfling idiotically at his "horny landlord" quip(which was funny, but not *that* funny.). In fact, I thought he was acting like that because he was uncomfortable. Mac can be a tyrannical ass when it suits. The laughter made him sound drunk or stoned.

The scenes with Danny were better, but it was still too much Adam at one go. The writers have cottoned on to the fact that fans like Adam, and they're so desperate to earn cool points that they're using him whenever and however they can without ensuring that they're using him to the maximum benefit of the actor or the show.

 

[Faylinn]

There's also the possibility that they use more Adam because they want to use more Adam. Using him in more scenes doesn't automatically imply that they're just trying to please the fans.

I'd have to re-watch the episode to pay more attention to Adam's scenes, but from one viewing I just see him as being the source of the 'fun' in the episode (along with some other stuff) - using a character for comic relief does sometimes (or more than sometimes) make them seem foolish, but then I guess it comes down to what each of us likes or takes away from the scenes.

 

[LpoHeartsNick]

Other actresses do much more demanding work when they are as pregnant as Anna Belknap. I'm sick of people using excuses for TPTB's lack of development for the character. They wouldn't have to have her doing much to make her a part of the story line. Alll she'd have to do is speak and act like a first time expectant, single, professional mother would and have the story line focus on her reactions to the situation as much as they do on Danny's. That's hardly demanding. Well, for as poor of an actress as Anna Belknap is it's probably asking too much.

Random thought #3: Lindsay needs to stuff a sandwich or two down Danny's throat. Carmine was looking pretty damn skinny in this episode.

Ok, I see your point.

It's nvery true. The writers have made this pregnacy all about Danny and the basic debate that it takes two to tango has been completely forgotten.

I do like Lindsay and Anna for that matter. She seems pretty harmless as a character, and No I dont think she can handle heavy storylines, it just doesn't seem like something she would be any good at. But all-in-all she isa cute fluffy character, that is good in most episodes... so... yeah? that's all I got really.


Danny needs to gain 20 pounds. then I will love him more.

 

[Poppet]

I found the plot very predictable but loved Danny, Flack and Adam in this episode. I don't believe TPTB are necessarily pandering to fans by having more Adam, just they have eventually realised how good a character he is.

La Guera said:
Honestly, Adam struck me as anything but comfortable when he started snarfling idiotically at his "horny landlord" quip(which was funny, but not *that* funny.). In fact, I thought he was acting like that because he was uncomfortable. Mac can be a tyrannical ass when it suits. The laughter made him sound drunk or stoned.

I got the he was supposed to be a little uncomfortable in that scene, like he was trying not to laugh too much at his own joke but that in turn made him laugh more. Like I said I really like Adam in this episode, especially as more Adam seems to mean less Lindsay.

As for the D/L scene, it was sweet but out of place in the lab - not professional. (I wonder is Carmine felt a bit wierd kissing Anna's pregnant belly - I know he is a professional but it is a bit personal).

Didn't like Lindsays 'pulling rank' line to Adam - not necessary at all.

On a picky note, I don't know who chose the music for thsi episode but the song that was on while Danny processed the vics apartment just didn't fit at all. I can only guess it was by a CBS artist - but still bad chioce IMO.

Overall, it was a good job the boys were on form.

oh ps. not liking the Ella storyline at all.

 

[Faylinn]

Didn't like Lindsays 'pulling rank' line to Adam - not necessary at all.

I am definitely going to have to re-watch the episode because a bunch of y'all have mentioned this and I have no recollection of the scene.