That is in the fault of TPTB and the writers, who clearly wants to capitalize and sell the hunkness. But it doesn't make Jesse offensive. What was wrong with using his shirt? He reacted in the moment and did the first thing that came to mind, using his shirt to stop the bleeding. Would you rather that he spent time running around looking for stuff while the woman bleeds to death? It's not like he's the first person in the world to take off a shirt to stop someone from bleeding to death. This is hardly some new development or novel idea.
And how do you know that Jesse took off his shirt simply because HE wanted to take it off? Where you inside his head? Are you a psychic? Would be any other purpose to take off his shirt? Did he want the gunman to love his body or something, make himself look cool? It was a simple answer. A woman was bleeding to death and Jesse took care of the situation in the way he could, using his own shirt as a way to prevent the bleeding. And besides, he was handed another lab shirt to wear less than a minute later.
The only thing offensive is the writers/producers' assumption that we the fans are idiots who drool over every hot guy. But the character himself did not act in any way offensive.
Yes. Danielle was bleeding to death. And yes, Jesse, used his shirt to stop the bleeding. But the natural reacting to seeing some one hurt is LOOKING for something to help. You do not see the shirt you are wearing, and Jesse never looked around. You may not believe it, but I actually have some experience here. People look around to find something to help. The first reaction is not to tear off their own clothes.
A part of the character, a huge part, is what the writers write. Another huge part is how the director wan't the shot. Both of these things are out of the actor's control but are still a part of the character.
The writers wrote the scene very badly, thus making the character Jesse offensive.
I'll blame the writers, sure. I'm already mad at them for this season and blaming them for much of the problem with Jesse.
You want all the blame of the writers? I can't go with that because the directors and the actor still do a lot.
I am frustrated with Eddie's poor acting skills and I feeling the directing has made it worse.
Which ever way it goes, the character is still offensive.
Well, that is a subjective opinion isn't it? You didn't see it, but I did. I saw everything I needed to see in his eyes. So I guess on this matter, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
We can agree to disagree, but I hope you realize that your opinion of his eyes is just as subjective as mine is.
Jesse and H are cut from the same cloth, they both came from the macho school of men. They may not be exactly the same, but they are similar in the sense that both men are the quiet stoic type who for the most part is very calm and composed.
They are both quiet and stoic but so is about a third of all men on earth. If you only have two or three types of men, then, yes, H and Jesse are the same. But I don't care to see that little difference in people. H and Jesse are very much apart in may ways. Just as Ryan and Eric and Frank are all very different. They are all five macho men. Especially Frank, but I don't see H and Frank as the same, or Jesse and Frank as the same. Way too much generalization!
The guy's only been in a season, and the closest thing he's done to something horrible and bad is planting a bug on the guy who possibly killed his wife. So please don't give any of that stuff about Jesse being so horrible. The guy's a saint compared to the crap that the other characters have faced, even in one season. And how was Jesse not sympathetic? The guy's wife was killed, he's allowed some anger and secrecy.
It is attitude and feeling which endears. Most all of the of the characters we call regulars were originally presented in a positive light. (Frank is really the only exception). When they did bad stuff we already liked them, there for we forgave them/felt for them. Jesse has not been at all. He has no feeling, and one attitude. Boring. He's not endearing. Therefore when he does something wrong even a little wrong it is worse, because there is no counter to balance him out.
I believe that Jesse bad in these 16 episodes has been more then any other character in pick 16 consecutive episodes. But in this this again, we will have to disagree.
Oh yes of course, let's just blame it all on Jesse for being a stupid idiot. How about blaming the crazy person who was waving a gun? At least Jesse had good intentions trying to help. You make it sound like he did in on purpose or he was such a horrible person.
Jesse may have had good intentions, but having been a cop for 15 plus years, I'd think he would know better then to aggravate a crazy person who is waving a gun as much as Jesse did. I don't think he did it on purpose, but he did create a ca-motion. He should have known better.
I actually blame the crazy man. I felt sorry for him and his son at the end, but what he did was terribly wrong and I hope he is locked up for a very long time.
So that was not the most sensitive thing he's ever done. But guess what, the situation wasn't exactly all fun and games, it was hard on both of them and Jesse reacted wrongly, so he reacted like an actual human being who has something to prove and wants to be able to prove something he did was right if not find his wife's murderer.
I would have understood it, if Jesse showed some pain, if his eyes changed, if he acted as if he was thinking about Tess and how she was brutally taken away from him.
He did not. He yelled at the freak and his freak side kick, then he went out side, sauntered up to were Natti and Anna were sitting and towered over her, like a passive observer. Yikes! Gave me the creeps!
This is hardly the worst thing that any of the CSIs has done.
No. For that I'm going either with Ryan framing that poor security man, or H shooting the downed gunless freak.
But it adds to the general negativity which surrounds Jesse. He's not a likable person, because he has not showed anything to like.
Maybe if you watched closely then you'd have seen that he was going to tell her what was going on, he was going to explain why Anna and him know each other. But at the time of the date, he went to Anna's house to keep an eye on her so leaving Natalia on her own. But then the next day he went to apologize to Natalia, so it's not like he was totally unfeeling or mean just because he likes to be. It just so happens that this thing about his wife became more important than anything else in his life. And THAT is hardly wrong.
Maybe if I watched closely?!?
What? Were you there every single time I watched "Kill Clause" that you can say that I need to watch more closely?!?
Seem to me you are being terribly judgmental here.
I actually know what happened and "why" Jesse stood Natti up, and "why" he asked her out in the first place. I really do. But it was still not needed, as she really wasn't bugging him about Anna, and he hadn't been bothered by Calleigh's and Ryan's comments. Jesse could have called it off much sooner then when he was supposed to be there. This was terribly cruel, and for some one who is not a sympathetic character, it does nothing to help improve his image.
Bullies? Oh please, like Calleigh, Ryan, Frank, Eric, or even Horatio hasn't bullied witnesses or suspects? If you're gonna do this whole act about Jesse being tough and harsh, then any of the CSIs has done it, Jesse isn't alone in this. There were clear moments shown where he cares about people and the witnesses. But hey, if you choose to have selective memory about it, then fine.
Everyone bullies, yes, but when a character is compassionate and also mean, it evens out. With Jesse, he only has one thing on the side of compassionate, that is helping Carlos in "In Plane Sight." Other then that, he has been all negative. It makes for a very lopsided feel.
He shot his gun to stop the timer, if he hadn't then both of them would be blown up. Oh but of course, this is all just Jesse's fault for being stupid.:shifty:
Would you rather that he just stood there and waited for that timer to run out? Maybe then you'd get to call him a stupid idiot for letting himself get blown up, then you can blame on him some more. He was trying to SAVE Walter's life by stopping that timer the only way he could. So yes, he took a risk with the gunshot, but it paid off didn't it. Both him and Walter made it out alive and no injuries.
Jesse didn't stop the timer any way he could have.
He firer in a highly explosive building were it should have gone up! Why it didn't is more to bad writing. No cop, would ever do this. It is just stupid!
What Jesse should have do was yell "Bomb!" and the two of them run like mad.
Walter and Jesse made it out with no injuries because they had unbelievably good luck considering Jesse fired a gun in a meth house!
Bad, bad writing.
And as for laughing....have you ever heard of easing up the situation? You make it sound like he was mocking Walter when instead he was trying to be humorous so that none of it would be so traumatizing and scary. It's a tactic that law enforcement uses, and sometimes even normal people in dangerous situations uses it to relax and calm down too.
You do know that I meant "Laughing" figuratively and not literally as Jesse was not actually laughing. He was making fun of Walter's horrified face. This is not the tactic that people including law enforcement use to calm and relax each other. This is a tactic that people use when they know they shouldn't have done something and want to hide their guilt. They call the other person a "scaredy cat."
Children do this all the time.
One steals a cookie. Another say "No! you'll get caught!" and the first says "Scaredy cat!" or "Chicken!"
