Could they just hook up Mac and Stella?

[CSI Cupcake]

The blond in DNA with the accent. Wasn't her name Jane? They were never in a relationship, but I thought they might do well together based on what I saw when he would go into the DNA lab for test results and such. He was different around her, much like he was different around Lindsay when they introduced her character in S2.

And I didn't mean to imply that Stella and Horatio had chemistry. I said he had a thing for her. She didn't appear to reciprocate.

It's hard when you really like two characters together and have to watch as the show continually pairs them up with others isn't it...me...Friends...Joey and Rachel instead of Rachel and Ross (gah!).

 

[Plenilunio]

The blond in DNA with the accent. Wasn't her name Jane? They were never in a relationship, but I thought they might do well together based on what I saw when he would go into the DNA lab for test results and such. He was different around her, much like he was different around Lindsay when they introduced her character in S2.

*facepalm* You are so very right! That woman! I don't remember her name, but I agree with you, Mac seemed to like her.

And I didn't mean to imply that Stella and Horatio had chemistry. I said he had a thing for her. She didn't appear to reciprocate.

I don't know how other people saw the, really. I'm sorry if I was too harsh, I didn't mean to. Maybe he had a thing for her or that's what it seemed, but I didn't quite see it.

 

[CSI Cupcake]

The blond in DNA with the accent. Wasn't her name Jane? They were never in a relationship, but I thought they might do well together based on what I saw when he would go into the DNA lab for test results and such. He was different around her, much like he was different around Lindsay when they introduced her character in S2.

*facepalm* You are so very right! That woman! I don't remember her name, but I agree with you, Mac seemed to like her.

And I didn't mean to imply that Stella and Horatio had chemistry. I said he had a thing for her. She didn't appear to reciprocate.

I don't know how other people saw the, really. I'm sorry if I was too harsh, I didn't mean to. Maybe he had a thing for her or that's what it seemed, but I didn't quite see it.

Oh, you weren't harsh at all. I think Horatio is a riot, and I smile every time I watch CSI Miami, but not because I think he can act.:lol: But that's a different thread and I won't pursue it here.

 

[talkingtocactus]

I didn't really see the chemistry between Stella and Horatio, maybe because I've always despised Horatio and I was paying more attention to the... way... he speaks.

haha, that made me do this :guffaw:

i thought he had a bit of a thing for stella too - not a huge crush or anything but it was like he definitely noticed her, but yeah, no reciprocation whatsoever. she's a wise lady

 

[Top41]

The blond in DNA with the accent. Wasn't her name Jane? They were never in a relationship, but I thought they might do well together based on what I saw when he would go into the DNA lab for test results and such.

I think they had potential, too! I liked Jane--the actress is currently on Lost playing Penny, and is going to be in the new show Flash Forward as well.

He was different around her, much like he was different around Lindsay when they introduced her character in S2.

Agreed. It's funny--I saw a good deal of romantic chemistry between Mac and Lindsay when she was introduced, and funny enough, I saw some sparks fly early in season one between Stella and Danny as well. There was much more natural romantic chemistry in either of those pairings than I've ever seen with Danny and Lindsay (who are incredibly scripted) or Mac and Stella (who I just see as friends).

It's hard when you really like two characters together and have to watch as the show continually pairs them up with others isn't it...me...Friends...Joey and Rachel instead of Rachel and Ross (gah!).

Yeah, that was one of those pairings that seemed like it would be sweet until they got them together and then, uck! No romantic chemistry between Joey and Rachel. The writers were smart to really address and show that when they did go there, though!

 

[Elwood21]

heh, alright, I'll set the show aside for a moment and jump into teh fluffage

I agree with a lot of Fruitbat's synopsis. Man, Stella really deserves better with how she's been used by the show, though Melina's more than pulled off and elevated material that could have been simply atrocious to sit thru if done poorly. I was honestly hoping for so much better with this whole Brandon thing, but he was boring and we saw very little of him. Even if they don't bring him back and move her on, at least there will have been one guy she's been with who wasn't a freakin psycho. I've always liked Stella, from S1 on, but for some reason this season I've increasingly warmed to her character (I suppose because it's the first I've watched in it's near-entirety since S3). I really hope that, if more romance is gonna be included in the show to round out the characters, that Stella, Sheldon, and Adam are the next on the list to each have at least a little flirtatious fun peppered into their personal lives.

As for Mac. I liked Jane, I liked Peyton, I thought Quinn coulda been good, and there was some FBI Agent or something in a very quick scene that played really well. Anytime Gary's had to play material relating to Claire, they are consistently some of the most moving scenes Mac gets, another being watching the video in his office with the camp survivor victim speaking of his father. I also think that what people find appealing about Mac and Stella's relationship is the fact that each has consistently trusted the other with their vulnerabilities, when they otherwise are always very strong and independent. In addition to being able to both confide in each other and also butt heads in a no harm no foul type fashion, I think this really does make the depiction of their relationship unique and so engaging to watch.

I think they really humanize each other, and help show aspects of their strengths, flaws, and personalities, and also do so in service of whatever story or episode is underlying. It really is a strength of the show.

I also agree with most aspects of CSI Cupcake's comments.

i always liked peyton (probably because she's a londoner!) and i thought they worked well together but i totally agree that she became a simpering needy woman towards the end, that was a real shame, i liked when she stood up to him (like over the hawkes thing).

Overall, I liked Peyton. I didn't like how she was handled in the end, that was a turn-off, but I think S3 was a really good one for challenging and evolving Mac, between both Peyton and Reed. That's what I want material devoted to rounding out the characters to do. Not indulge in a romance for the sake of having some luvin as another aspect of the show, but to have it also purposeful. I also liked that the relationship with Peyton was contained within S3, and that it wasn't something that dragged on for wondering what else to do with it. I actually think it was all handled pretty well by the show. Plus, whatever the ups and downs with Peyton's character, I will maintain a soft spot for her simply due the scene in the diner where she speaks of cutting up some poor bastard's liver for a lovely pate just to see if Mac's paying attention :lol:.

I also think that Jane was written with the possibility of becoming an interest for Mac, but for all the changes in S2. I do find it amusing that Mac does seem to have a penchant for British women, between Jane and Peyton, and in a sidestep due the actress, Gillian.

I didn't really see the chemistry between Stella and Horatio, maybe because I've always despised Horatio and I was paying more attention to the... way... he speaks. Anyway, he's in Miami and if there's another CSI/Miami crossover, I hope they don't sleep together.

Again agree with CSI Cupcake in thinking H mighta been interested but that Stella wasn't, or didn't even notice, or deliberately didn't notice .

Man. Abstract discussions about chemistry is one thing. Thinking about Horatio actually sleeping with anyone just blows my mind into absolut!creepy :lol:. *mild shudder*

I ship Smacked, that's no secret, but I understand each and every reason the rest of people express against it. Having Mac and Stella officially together may unbalance the show making it too romance-driven. Cases might lose importance and we must not forget this is a procedural show. All personal stuff should always come second, after the whodunit. Also, there is always the risk that their relationship becomes something like D/L. Mac and Stella have nothing to do with Danny and Lindsay, they're very well defined right now and I don't think it's likely, but it would be risky. This is no soap opera and adding more cheese to the mixture may only kill the show.

Check. Check, and check. ...aaaaaand check again. Yep. Agree with alla dat.

All in all, I'm torn here. I like the idea of the two of them together, I want them to be together, but I admit it may be too much and too risky. Turn them into a couple of sappy fluffy bunnies and a great part of the fanbase will grab their remote control and choose another series.

I can honestly understand why people think it would be a great pairing. But SFB:NY (Sappy Fluffy Bunnies: New york) would make a better Sunday parade than a teevee show, and yep, I certainly would be tuning in to watch something else :lol:

It's hard when you really like two characters together and have to watch as the show continually pairs them up with others isn't it...me...Friends...Joey and Rachel instead of Rachel and Ross (gah!).

Um. I hereby admit that I have done my utmost to completely avoid watching Friends, past and present :lol: Shocking, I know. I hadda roommate once who was obsessed, complete with seasonal dvds, and I was easily oversaturated and the opening bars of the theme song alone can make me twitch :lol: I only more recently realized that Eddie Cahill was ever on the show, so successfully did I manage to avoid it...

I think Horatio is a riot, and I smile every time I watch CSI Miami, but not because I think he can act.:lol: But that's a different thread and I won't pursue it here.

Agree again :lol: Horatio is a riot. I used to be perplexed, but now I'm just perpetually amused. I won't say I think Miami's great tv, but it can be entertaining all the same for certain reasons, and has also been known in the past to inspire the odd fun drinking game.

Briefly aside here, came across this, can't remember for the life of me when or how. Check out a rather silly but vaguely amusing skit by Comedy Inc. on YouTube. I gather they're a sketchcom series kinda like SNL. I'll be happy to remove the link it if it's not kosher to post it. And, one more vid, something I think is even better, the cast of CSI:Miami being interviewed about the character, including David, and some of their impressions. Go Johnathan Togo, :lol:

David Caruso School of Acting

Cast of CSI:Miami on H & Caruso

I think they had potential, too! I liked Jane--the actress is currently on Lost playing Penny, and is going to be in the new show Flash Forward as well.

Agree. And she's a character I liked on Lost before I had managed to place where I'd seen her before. Nice to hear she's got more projects on.

He was different around her, much like he was different around Lindsay when they introduced her character in S2.

Agreed. It's funny--I saw a good deal of romantic chemistry between Mac and Lindsay when she was introduced, and funny enough, I saw some sparks fly early in season one between Stella and Danny as well. There was much more natural romantic chemistry in either of those pairings than I've ever seen with Danny and Lindsay (who are incredibly scripted) or Mac and Stella (who I just see as friends).

...!ack , oowoogie, nooo :lol: And here we'll just differ :lol: I did see Mac as treating Lindsay differently, but, um, no, never saw that as potential fireworks in da leastest. More eager beaver and bemused and somewhat indulgent supervisor. Neither with Stella and Danny. Always put the latter as that playful kinda banter, pushing to find out what the boundaries are. I work in a predominantly male environment in an unconventional field, and I know all about those kinds of dynamics :lol: I feel that while there may have been a fun dynamic in some of those cases, I can't say I saw romantic potential in either one.

I guess I'm one who mighta seen a playful and bantering chemistry more easily between, say, Stella and Flack, there's a certain sardonic quality to her and a snarkiness to him that just make their scenes fun; Danny and Maka; even Danny and Aiden. I will agree that I don't think Mac and Stella's chemistry is a romantic one, and that Danny and Lindsay have only what was written on paper and barely lifted off the page.

 

[Andromeda]

My sweet Andromeda

:lol: i knew you were going to say that, sweetie. I love you anyway:bolian:

Their relationship is so special that i do want to see them like a couple. Because i do believe they shared more than just a special friendship since Day 1
People have voted at this forum they like this show for these characters. Also it was stated since the beginning CSI NY was going to be more personal-wise than the other two shows of the franchise
So a relationship among characters it's part of a natural development, especially in the way Mac and Stella's relantionship was described since S4 because their relationship has always been sorrounded by the sexual tension

Ghawazee, Sweetie, you seem to know me already pretty well :lol:.

I agree, CSI NY was always different considering the chemistry of the characters, to me it´s the most homogenic team of all and it seemed like a natural process that couples formed among them. If Aiden hadn´t been killed, I´m pretty sure Danny would have her as girlfriend or wife instead of Lindsay . Flack and Angell also seemed like a natural thing to happen. We´ve heard of Hill that he would love a girlfriend for Hawkes, though I doubt it will be one of the team as I can´t see Stella and Sheldon falling in love with each other . Anyway, if I´m not a total nil in maths, after the unfortunate ending of F/A there´s now just one couple in the show at the moment, so there would be the space for another without ruining the show . But as I said before, for now I´m happy with the way Mac and Stella´s friendship/special relationship is presented. And as for other partners for them: they´re both rather some sort of loners, I can´t see a Mr. or Mrs. Right for them in the near future. To which you, my dear Ghawazee, will probably reply that they´ve already found Mr. and Mrs. Right . Lova ya, too .

 

[Half]

I liked Peyton, but they did kind of ruin her towards the end. I loved her scene with Mac in I believe Cold Comfort where she told him to go talk to Truby, but it seemed like halfway through the season they dropped the concept of her being someone that wouldn't change their conclusions just because he didn't think he was wrong.

Quinn I liked as well, and not just because she was a New Jersian. I saw potential between her and Mac. Whoever said that she was similar to Stella was right. And I could totally see a spinoff with her in the Mac role, but I'm not getting into that.

I don't think I ever saw Mac/Lindsay. They're a bit more father/daughter to me, so the ship potential just makes me shiver.

Oh, and Horatio/Stella? Good Lord, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. :guffaw:

 

[electra]

That would be the worst thing to happen at this point.I love them together and is one of the few things that keeps me interested on the show(besides Adam) .I am just afraid it will not be handled well and then we will have awkward scenes in pure D/L style.Unless it happens in the last episode of the show it will be a mistake IMO.

Horatio and Stella pairing had me rolling BTW.I do like Miami but I can't picture Horatio with anyone.

 

[talkingtocactus]

Plus, whatever the ups and downs with Peyton's character, I will maintain a soft spot for her simply due the scene in the diner where she speaks of cutting up some poor bastard's liver for a lovely pate just to see if Mac's paying attention :lol:.

yeah, that bit's great

Briefly aside here, came across this, can't remember for the life of me when or how. Check out a rather silly but vaguely amusing skit by Comedy Inc. on YouTube. I gather they're a sketchcom series kinda like SNL. I'll be happy to remove the link it if it's not kosher to post it. And, one more vid, something I think is even better, the cast of CSI:Miami being interviewed about the character, including David, and some of their impressions. Go Johnathan Togo, :lol:

David Caruso School of Acting

Cast of CSI:Miami on H & Caruso

as another aside: the jim carrey horatio caine impression is just great as well, he gets it absolutely right.

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I don't think I ever saw Mac/Lindsay. They're a bit more father/daughter to me, so the ship potential just makes me shiver.

Oh, and Horatio/Stella? Good Lord, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. :guffaw:

yeah, i agree completely on both counts. i thought the thing with mac/lindsay was somewhat paternal but also more like mentor/student, i never saw anything romantic in it at all.

 

[CSI Cupcake]

Finally, I get back in here. Real life...what can I say!

Top41, I saw something between Lindsay and Mac too, but couldn't say whether it would be good romantically. He seemed sort of smitten for an episode or two. However with Stella/Danny, I gotta got with Elwood21 on that one. Didn't see anything romantic in it. Danny was being Danny and Stella shut him down real quick. They work really well together as co-workers though. I like how they interact on a regular basis. I think Danny is most relaxed with Stella and most like he was in S1, a bit quieter and not nearly as smartass. I like that Danny a lot so if she brings that out in him, it's a good pairing as co-workers.

It's funny that all those guys in the lab (and Flack from the Precinct) adore her and would probably take bullets for her but there is no romantic interest from any of them. Well, except for the stuff going on with Adam, which is awkwardly cute.

Still sticking with Jane for my favorite girl for Mac. Top41, I didn't realize she was Penny in Lost!

Andromeda, I'm sorry but I just can't see Danny/Aiden. It's okay that you do, but I can't see them as anything other than brother/sister or buddies/pals that squabble like little kids. I can't see Aiden marrying Danny, even if he asked her.

 

[Curiosity]

I'm not totally against romance in the show. But when it is included, why not show relationships with people outside of work, or at least outside the same department. Give Hawkes a brilliant girlfriend who has nothing to do with law enforcement. Hell, while Brandon was bland and boring, it was simply a nice and believable notion that Stella could be seeing a fireman.

I think it’s a challenge for the show to do this type of thing given its basic format and structure. Since the cases and work of the CSI’s are the centerpiece, most of the character interactions and relationships we see have to fit within (or extend from) that context. So while it might be nice to see or hear about characters’ dating someone from the “outside,” it’s probably tough for writers to regularly incorporate those types of interactions or devote enough time to make them compelling. Knowing that Stella is dating a fireman (and seeing him a few times) does help round out the character, but it doesn’t do much for Stella’s longer term development nor does it have the same impact as seeing an actual relationship play out (onscreen and over time) with a more fully fleshed out character.

One of my reasons for hoping Mac and Stella get together much further down the line is the fact that so far she seems to be the best match for him. Not one woman they have stuck him with so far comes across as remotely suitable for him. Mac needs someone to shake him up someone to stand up to him someone his equal. As does Stella.

There is a some parallelism between Mac and Stella’s personal journeys and potential developmental arcs – Mac trying to regain his footing and reconnect with people again after losing a bit of himself to grief and Stella possibly seeking a sense of family and stability that she didn’t really have as a child -- and it’s possible the writers could converge their journeys towards the end and have them find that deeper personal connection with each other. There’s a certain symmetry and neatness to that resolution that appeals to me for various reasons.

And I agree that so far Stella is the only woman who comes across as a true equal to Mac (despite the fact that he’s supposedly her boss) and also the one who seems to accept him the way he is, flaws and all. It think it does present the writers with a bit of a dilemma because the longer the series goes on, the more difficult it is to find potential love interests for Mac or Stella who can overcome the history between the them or the amount of time invested in their onscreen development.

Re: Mac and Stella’s previous love interests, so far they haven’t been that impressive. Stella’s prospects have been pretty dismal, and I really don’t see that changing unless they are able to add a recurring character and devote sufficient time to actually developing a relationship, OR if they just finally decide to develop a relationship with Mac as is currently being discussed/debated in this thread.

I agree that Quinn was probably the best of Mac’s romantic prospects, chemistry-wise. But the writers managed to undermine the character to some degree with a fairly unflattering scenario. (She pursued a married man who in her own words never let her forget he loved his wife? And she still has a thing for him after countless years even though he never called?) Blah!

I’ve never been a fan of Peyton’s although I agree the relationship served a purpose. Ironically, the first full episode of CSI:NY I watched was “Snow Day,” which had to be one of the very worst Peyton episodes, so my view of her didn’t start out very favorably and only worsened when I caught up on the earlier episodes and saw how the relationship had been introduced.

I never warmed to Jane either. Can’t quite put my finger on the reason, other than there was something a little too artful about her.

Rose and Jordan – too weak. Gillian - a bit too bland.

This is probably closest in line to how I feel about Mac and Stella. Do they have chemistry? Sure, loads. But it's never seemed romantic to me. I don't not want Mac and Stella to pair up because there are too many couples or because the Danny/Lindsay pairing has been a debacle; I don't want to see them together simply because I don't think they have that sort of rapport. It wouldn't be completely lacking chemistry, like Danny and Lindsay do, but I don't think Mac and Stella really generate any heat together, any romantic fire.

Fair enough and understandable. Chemistry is one of those subjective, very individual things, and to some degree, I think “you either see it or you don’t” for any particular couple. (I might be one of the few around who didn’t think Mulder and Scully had romantic chemistry.)

I do see some romantic chemistry between Mac and Stella but it’s not necessarily the fiery, passionate, burn up the screen type that may appeal to some. (In all fairness, though, the relationship so far has been played rather platonically much of the time, so it’s hard to say what they would really be like in a full fledged romance.) For now, though, the chemistry I see is more of a simmering, smoldering type, bordering on sweet, which makes me want to go “Aww….” (And they look good together, which always helps. )

I also think that what people find appealing about Mac and Stella's relationship is the fact that each has consistently trusted the other with their vulnerabilities, when they otherwise are always very strong and independent. In addition to being able to both confide in each other and also butt heads in a no harm no foul type fashion, I think this really does make the depiction of their relationship unique and so engaging to watch.

Nicely stated. And I agree….

...!ack , oowoogie, nooo And here we'll just differ I did see Mac as treating Lindsay differently, but, um, no, never saw that as potential fireworks in da leastest. More eager beaver and bemused and somewhat indulgent supervisor.

Since I watched the seasons out of order, I can’t say I’ve ever seriously thought about a Mac/Lindsay pairing. (The very idea has a certain “ick” factor for me that I just don't want to consider.) Thinking about season two, it does seem like the two had a number of scenes together, so maybe there was some thought of having Mac take on a father/mentor role or having Lindsay develop a one-sided crush on Mac. But I never really saw sparks or even strong chemistry between them – although I agree that Mac to this day seems a bit bemused and overly indulgent with Lindsay in a way that we don’t see with others on the team. Mac’s attitude toward Lindsay is actually a bit perplexing because over the years, I can’t recall Lindsay showing much strong and/or specific care and concern over the various woes that have befallen Mac.

The only other potential romantic pairing between regular cast members that I briefly considered was Flack/Stella and that’s only because they seemed to share a number of scenes together in the first two seasons, and because Flack was the one who seemed to provide the primary support and comfort to Stella in “All Access.” (Mac’s reaction to Stella’s attack actually bugged me, but that’s a topic for another thread.)

 

[Elwood21]

I'm not totally against romance in the show. But when it is included, why not show relationships with people outside of work, or at least outside the same department. Give Hawkes a brilliant girlfriend who has nothing to do with law enforcement. Hell, while Brandon was bland and boring, it was simply a nice and believable notion that Stella could be seeing a fireman.

I think it’s a challenge for the show to do this type of thing given its basic format and structure. Since the cases and work of the CSI’s are the centerpiece, most of the character interactions and relationships we see have to fit within (or extend from) that context. So while it might be nice to see or hear about characters’ dating someone from the “outside,” it’s probably tough for writers to regularly incorporate those types of interactions or devote enough time to make them compelling. Knowing that Stella is dating a fireman (and seeing him a few times) does help round out the character, but it doesn’t do much for Stella’s longer term development nor does it have the same impact as seeing an actual relationship play out (onscreen and over time) with a more fully fleshed out character.

I agree. What I suppose I meant was that I would prefer this kind of handling for most romances on our procedural crime drama precisely because I only want minimal or at least delicately balanced time devoted to such things :lol: I don't want romances coming to the forefront of the show. I want them to be only one of several ways to give us insights into our characters. Nor do I want it be so insular in focus thru simply hooking up main characters to kill a few birds with one stone. For me, putting Mac and Stella together, or any main characters together, would close more doors than it opens.

Generally, I wouldn't mind only a few scenes here and there devoted to depicting dates and dinners etc, and nor would I mind hearing about potential involvements thru conversation and methods like that. The implication is that they have a life, and that's what I appreciate. (Hell, having them get hotdogs or sip at a cuppa coffee in a scene is impressive in itself for acknowledging that our supercrimefighters get hungry :lol Having a relationship between people in the labs like DL or the precinct like FA means that its always a default presence. I'd rather not be so saddled. Danny and Lindsay have had a huge volume of material devoted to their so-called relationship, and it's done next to nothing for the characters :lol: Three years! How minimally have they grown or changed or been touched, what the hell have I learned about either one of them. Have any of their scenes made for engaging teevee. Talk about a waste, both in having to sit thru it to get the rest of the show, and the fact that so much time could have been devoted to other things.

FA felt tighter to me because there were fewer scenes explicity devoted to it (in the short time they had together) and when there were, they seemed to carry more punch. Nor was Angell in every epsisode, and when she was in one, the focus didn't simply revert back to their involvement alone. Each was still an independent character that could contribute to an episode outside of being the office romance. Peyton was much more blatantly brought in to be a love interest but was still also written in some eps to be involved in the plotlines (stolen non-dead guy, for example), and come to think of it, was among the first and only NY MEs to appear consistently outside the labs at a scene, aside from Sheldon in rare instances in S1. I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the now puzzled recollection I have

RE: long term development, that's also why I think romance should only be one way to round out a character. Stella's also had some cases that have pushed her buttons and also the HIV storyline, however anyone mighta felt about that. And I think Reed helped bring Mac out of his rather hardened shell and move more firmly into the present tense as much as Peyton did. I think those were two smart characters to have brought into the show for a contained period of time. Sinclair and Gerrard are two more that I thought were smart choices to have brought in, though I wasn't sold at first. In the end, both have proved very good foils for Mac, and I've learned and felt more for both of them in a few select scenes than I have for Lindsay in the whole of her time on the show.

Being poignant, precise, and concise, in the writing and performance, is a definite skill for having meaningful personal moments, of any sort, in a procedural show. But I do think there's a place for emotional resonance in the middle of all the things the characters encounter and hafta handle weekly.

All the same. Not everything hasta be deep and pithy in opening up our characters. Danny and Flack going to a basketball game is just fun. Danny teasing Flack about a girl he met at a charity hockey game is fun. Adam's hints about his girlfriends are fun. Sid's creepy place is fun. The fact that Sheldon scuba dives is great. Hell, learning anything about Sheldon is great :lol: Even something like Danny bringing in his dog was fun. All of those were just little moments that nudged at the fact that there's a wider world out there.

I dunno what the hell happened to that convenient little dog btw :lol:

It is definitely a challenge for the show, to be able to have those moments in a way that serve both the characters and the stories, whether running along converging or parallel lines as they're incorporated. In a way I think the show has often been more successful building up a body of those smaller moments than in having devoted major screentime and focus to certain things.

Perhaps that 3-ep arc we saw this season can be a catalyst and an approach, not just for they types of crimes and nemesis we get, but peeking into the characters's lives a little more too.

(In all fairness, though, the relationship so far has been played rather platonically much of the time, so it’s hard to say what they would really be like in a full fledged romance.) For now, though, the chemistry I see is more of a simmering, smoldering type, bordering on sweet, which makes me want to go “Aww….” (And they look good together, which always helps. )

I agree, and fair enough to awwwwws. My cockles are occasionally warmed by them. I dunno what a cockle is, or how there's any correspondence between shelfish and one's heart, but I get ya. Mebbe it's to do with oysters and all that, who knows. But I seriously digress. :lol: And yeah, they do look good together, either way

Since I watched the seasons out of order, I can’t say I’ve ever seriously thought about a Mac/Lindsay pairing. (The very idea has a certain “ick” factor for me that I just don't want to consider.) Thinking about season two, it does seem like the two had a number of scenes together, so maybe there was some thought of having Mac take on a father/mentor role or having Lindsay develop a one-sided crush on Mac. But I never really saw sparks or even strong chemistry between them – although I agree that Mac to this day seems a bit bemused and overly indulgent with Lindsay in a way that we don’t see with others on the team. Mac’s attitude toward Lindsay is actually a bit perplexing because over the years, I can’t recall Lindsay showing much strong and/or specific care and concern over the various woes that have befallen Mac.

ha, I know, that was my wee lil homer simpsonesque yelp there at the mere mention alone :lol:

That's an interesting and very good point about Lindsay and Mac, and one that hadn't occured to me. I remember her commenting about Stella in All Access, and Angell in Pay Up, for example, but no, nuthin' about Mac. I suppose maybe because we all know he's indefatigable and will pool together like the terminator no many how many pieces he's in, to relentlessly bring justice to the streets :lol:. Or. It could be because Lindsay's consistently come across as self-focused, unable to relate except in putting herself first, like not knowing how to comfort Danny after Reuben's death, nor talking to parents and grieving mothers, etc. I think Lindsay was serving a purpose that Adam does more often now; ie. poking and prodding Mac as a straightman into being taken less seriously. I wish I could know why the hell she hasn't been held to the same standards of accountability though. That grates. Anyhoo. No. Gad no. Not a pairing I ever saw.

 

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There is a some parallelism between Mac and Stella’s personal journeys and potential developmental arcs – Mac trying to regain his footing and reconnect with people again after losing a bit of himself to grief and Stella possibly seeking a sense of family and stability that she didn’t really have as a child -- and it’s possible the writers could converge their journeys towards the end and have them find that deeper personal connection with each other. There’s a certain symmetry and neatness to that resolution that appeals to me for various reasons. ..... For now, though, the chemistry I see is more of a simmering, smoldering type, bordering on sweet, which makes me want to go “Aww….” (And they look good together, which always helps. )

i pretty much agree with this - much as i don't want to see them hooked up, i think you're right that they have definite parallels in their backstories, and that could lead to romantic potential. i also agree that they have a different kind of chemistry - to me it's definitely a more subtle thing than the fireworks you often see with other tv couples. not that i even see them as a couple in that sense, but there is definitely something there, which is why they're so interesting to watch.

I agree that Quinn was probably the best of Mac’s romantic prospects, chemistry-wise. But the writers managed to undermine the character to some degree with a fairly unflattering scenario. (She pursued a married man who in her own words never let her forget he loved his wife? And she still has a thing for him after countless years even though he never called?) Blah!

indeed - haven't they heard of feminism!?

Flack was the one who seemed to provide the primary support and comfort to Stella in “All Access.” (Mac’s reaction to Stella’s attack actually bugged me, but that’s a topic for another thread.)

how so, just out of interest like? point me to this other thread if you'd rather!

What I suppose I meant was that I would prefer this kind of handling for most romances on our procedural crime drama precisely because I only want minimal or at least delicately balanced time devoted to such things :lol: I don't want romances coming to the forefront of the show. I want them to be only one of several ways to give us insights into our characters. Nor do I want it be so insular in focus thru simply hooking up main characters to kill a few birds with one stone. For me, putting Mac and Stella together, or any main characters together, would close more doors than it opens.

Generally, I wouldn't mind only a few scenes here and there devoted to depicting dates and dinners etc, and nor would I mind hearing about potential involvements thru conversation and methods like that. The implication is that they have a life, and that's what I appreciate.

i feel exactly the same - as much as i can see the chemistry and i think a mac/stella hook up is an interesting prospect if nothing else, i don't want it to happen because that's not why i watch the show and it really would take over. like you i don't mind the odd snippet of personal lives but i don't want them to be the focus.

(Hell, having them get hotdogs or sip at a cuppa coffee in a scene is impressive in itself for acknowledging that our supercrimefighters get hungry :lol

i don't think those scenes should be allowed, after all, "eating is frowned upon"

 

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Flack was the one who seemed to provide the primary support and comfort to Stella in “All Access.” (Mac’s reaction to Stella’s attack actually bugged me, but that’s a topic for another thread.)

how so, just out of interest like? point me to this other thread if you'd rather!

(*psst* dat dere be a question for Curiosity, eh? I wee lil formatting thingy got shuffled in yer quotage )