CSI: NY Season 6 Spoiler Discussion - Solving Crime in the Empire City

[Ghawazee]

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There's no evidence she's slacking in her job. The paramedics could be commenting on how the only time they see her is in the ER and it's strange to see her elsewhere. In fact it sounds to me like she's off duty and on a date with Mac and she chooses to ride in the ambulance to help the little boy.

There is not evidence on the contrary either. Maybe it was her shift, she went out some minutes and in the middle there was that emergency easy

That is simply not true and it's one of the main reasons I don't want a Mac/Stella relationship on the show. Men and Women can be openly affectionate and caring toward each other without being romantically involved and I think it would be a step in the right direction for a TV show to have the two leads have that kind of relationship without the "inevitable hookup" most shows go with - mostly toward the end of the show's run.

as usual it's a matter of perception. They are not siblings as you have just said and they wouldn't be the first leads to be romantically envolved

Many times, and for years now, they have played with the idea of a hook up between them which was highly frustrating for shippers

But it was like a wild rollercoaster: as soon we were high , we started going down again so it was a pace back and forth between "something" and the "nothing"

As i said inside another therad it's the time they should decide what the heck they want to do with the two of them

Sometimes to pretend not to put the leads together is what it ruins a show at the end because it's not realistic. I know at least 2 cases of successful shows that were affected by irreality.

 

[sjhubby]

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They have never played with the idea of a hook-up. Where do you get that from. In every interview given by Gary and Melina along with Peter Lencov, when people have posed the question will Mac and Stella hook up the answer has been no.

 

[perlnoir]

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[Lori K.]

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romantic connection just as I'm sure all shippers don't assume every single interaction between two characters somehow shows a romantic link between the two.

Like a "One night stand" perhaps?

A question to those who see only friendship there. Especially those from the US. - How often does your boss hold your hand? I assume that you kiss him on the cheek from time to time and hug him regularily in plain view of your office and he does not object? :wtf: Does he hug you and kiss on the temple on some occasions?

Only if he wants a sexual harrassemnet suite slapped on him!:lol:

How often do you take off some parts of your boss' clothing in the office? :lol: Funny, eh? :guffaw:

Oh the HORROR!!!

 

[PerfectAnomaly]

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romantic connection just as I'm sure all shippers don't assume every single interaction between two characters somehow shows a romantic link between the two.

Like a "One night stand" perhaps?

I don't recall making EVERY interaction between Adam/Stella into something that wasn't there. Yeah, I've seen some subtext and I've commented on it, but I've also admitted that in CANON TPTB has dropped it. Would I like to see more? Yeah. Am I saying there is more (in canon)where there obviously isn't? No. Huge difference - subtext isn't canon.

Anywhoo . . . back on topic. I'm really excited to see Flack interact with a little boy. I'm betting it'll be really sweet. :adore: I'm also really interested to see if there's good chemistry between Mac and his new lady. I did like Peyton (although the "Dear John" letter was lame; but hey, people make mistakes) so I'm hoping I like this new woman as well.

 

[talkingtocactus]

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A question to those who see only friendship there. Especially those from the US. - How often does your boss hold your hand? I assume that you kiss him on the cheek from time to time and hug him regularily in plain view of your office and he does not object? :wtf: Does he hug you and kiss on the temple on some occasions? How often do you take off some parts of your boss' clothing in the office? :lol: Funny, eh? :guffaw:

but he's not just her boss, he's her friend, and those things make perfect sense in a friendship context.

Don't you agree that Stella gets away with lots of things which are not allowed to anybody else? Notice that all the actions are directed toward one person though all the CSIs in the lab are friends.

last time i checked, all stella's actions were being directed at adam :guffaw::guffaw:

when people work together as partners in a high stress situation such as law enforcement, there is a certain level of trust and familiarity which develops .... you are totally and completely comfortable with each other, having shared experiences, emotions, events and witnessed things which others can't possibly relate to. and i can totally understand how people who have never experienced such a relationship or witnessed it, can misinterpret it as a romantic one. to me, being in EMS/first response, and fortunate enough to have had a couple of partners like that, i totally see that in mac and stella's relationship. despite his title, they'll always be the partners they were before he got it. and while such relationships can definitely turn romantic (which i hope it does in the end ), it's not an automatic given, just because. especially since clearly they had developed their friendship/bond while he was still married.

this, basically. i think it'd be interesting to take it to another level someday, maybe, but i don't think it's necessary, i don't think the way they interact necessarily shows romance, i think you're absolutely right that it's more about trust, on a more basic level, which comes from working in that kind of situation.

[ot]however, Jade, please don't use the word familiarity, especially immediately after someone's explained that intimate doesn't have to mean sexual - you know what it does to me :lol:[/ot]

 

[CSI Cupcake]

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I'm very excited for Mac to have a new person in his life. I don't know that I want to see him come completely undone like Chegwidden (Chedwiggen???) did in JAG when they brought in someone for him, but seeing Mac take interest in a woman would be a good thing for his character. With Peyton it was all about the workplace and how open he could be (which is why I don't want him and Stella to become a thing). I'd like to see them open up his character a bit and let him have a life outside the lab with someone new.

As for Flack with the little boy... that makes me smile every time I think about it.

 

[Ghawazee]

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They have never played with the idea of a hook-up. Where do you get that from. In every interview given by Gary and Melina along with Peter Lencov, when people have posed the question will Mac and Stella hook up the answer has been no.

probably it wasn't made too obvious but for years we had "hints". I guess they were just to keep possibilities open
I think after 6 seasons (I don't say years because i have started watching this in the middle of S3) Smackies deserve an answer
Hopefully it won't happen what it did with Law and Order SVU. Poor shippers there have spent 11 years waiting (And i am a shipper there too but i am not watching)

 

[CSI Cupcake]

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Sorry if I am wrongly interjecting myself into this discussion and I will probably get burned for this but what wth:

Whether one sees the interactions of Mac and Stella as "hints" of romance or compatibility or not, The fact is that although Stella has touched, hugged, kissed Mac and adjusted his tie (as did Lindsay once as well), Mac has never reciprocated with any sign of affection except for the hug at Christmas this season. That was sweet but not romantic. Hell, we haven't even caught him looking at her boobs and they've been on display for six seasons! Stella on the other hand is a very touchy feely person. I wonder if that is a characteristic of Melina as a person that she has incorporated into the character. Stella has also hugged Sheldon, touched Adam (before the night at the motel), hugged and or touched Flack, kissed him on the cheek, touched Danny (in his apartment no less). That alone tells me that people see what they want to see in a person's actions.

When it comes time for the "familiar character" to tell Mac of their feelings for him, I hope it's not Stella. To me it would be very selfish of her to wait until he is involved with someone else to tell him what her feelings are, especially when she has had such an active social life herself for the past 5 seasons. I just don't see how I could respect the character if that happens.

 

[Brinchen]

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Yay for new spoilers. Just a question- am I right when I remember that this season will be shorter? Like only 21 episodes or so? I don't remember for sure.

Anyway the episode description sounds very interesting. I'm happy to see Lindsay in the episode, and Sid as well. Here is hope for Danny and Lindsay working together in a scene again. Also I like the idea of Flack taking care of the boy. Did we ever see him interact with children before? I bet it'll be an adorable scene. I so wish they wouldn't do the 'one character isn't in the episode' stuff anymore, because it would be nice if Adam was in as well.

About the other discussion. I still believe that chemistry between characters is subjective; some see it, some don't. It's no fact, it's also not non-existent. I think it's the cool thing about shipping.

 

[Flack-Angell]

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~ Flack develops a good relationship with Sam. He's the one who helps clean the blood off the little boy's hands and takes his blood-stained shirt for evidence (giving him a small NYPD t-shirt in its place). He spends a lot of time with Sam during the course of the investigation, trying to help him figure out who shot his brother.

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NAAAAAAAAAAAAW! :luvlove: Awww, this is gonna be awesome! *dreamy sigh*

That is simply not true and it's one of the main reasons I don't want a Mac/Stella relationship on the show. Men and Women can be openly affectionate and caring toward each other without being romantically involved and I think it would be a step in the right direction for a TV show to have the two leads have that kind of relationship without the "inevitable hookup" most shows go with - mostly toward the end of the show's run.

I totally agree! That is EXACTLY what I've been thinking too! People hug all the time without anything romantically going on. : D

 

[nel2h]

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Sorry top41!
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[PerfectAnomaly]

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About the other discussion. I still believe that chemistry between characters is subjective; some see it, some don't. It's no fact, it's also not non-existent. I think it's the cool thing about shipping.

CSICupcake said:The fact is that although Stella has touched, hugged, kissed Mac and adjusted his tie (as did Lindsay once as well), Mac has never reciprocated with any sign of affection except for the hug at Christmas this season. That was sweet but not romantic. Hell, we haven't even caught him looking at her boobs and they've been on display for six seasons! Stella on the other hand is a very touchy feely person. I wonder if that is a characteristic of Melina as a person that she has incorporated into the character. Stella has also hugged Sheldon, touched Adam (before the night at the motel), hugged and or touched Flack, kissed him on the cheek, touched Danny (in his apartment no less). That alone tells me that people see what they want to see in a person's actions.

I think interpretation and subtext is the cool part of shipping as well, it's just that interpretation, subtext and what people want to see often gets mistaken for canon and that is the part of shipping that isn't so cool IMO.

If interpretation and subtext were indicators of canon or what is to become canon then everyone in the lab would be doing it like rabbits with everyone else because each ship can make a case for their own subtext and interpretations of interactions between characters.

 

[sjhubby]

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romantic connection just as I'm sure all shippers don't assume every single interaction between two characters somehow shows a romantic link between the two.

Like a "One night stand" perhaps?

IMHO I think making love to someone you have been friends with and worked together for years shows a romantic link between them.:luvlove: We cannot dispute the fact that she chose to sleep with Adam. :adore: And she has never chose to be with Mac in any way shape or form. We have no way of knowing how this happened or what feelings lead them to it. (thanks to the wonderful writing this season) :guffaw:I have said before their night together happend weeks after the shooting. Are we to just assume that Stella was missing Angel one day, bumped into Adam somewhere and said "hey Adam, I miss Jessica, want to go to a hotel and have sex with me" :drool: Does that even make sence to anyone? What does that say about Stella? I know the smackies ( and I love all of you :luvlove:and respect your feelings ) don't agree with them, but, the fact is she chose him for whatever reason, and to dismiss that does'nt change it. I don't see Stella as an insecure needy woman who has to cling to a man in bed to make herself feel better when she is having a bad day. I think this is just another example of how the writing has been so bad this season. :brickwall::angryrazz::censored:

 

[Ghawazee]

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Sorry if I am wrongly interjecting myself into this discussion and I will probably get burned for this but what wth:

Whether one sees the interactions of Mac and Stella as "hints" of romance or compatibility or not, The fact is that although Stella has touched, hugged, kissed Mac and adjusted his tie (as did Lindsay once as well), Mac has never reciprocated with any sign of affection except for the hug at Christmas this season. That was sweet but not romantic. Hell, we haven't even caught him looking at her boobs and they've been on display for six seasons! Stella on the other hand is a very touchy feely person. I wonder if that is a characteristic of Melina as a person that she has incorporated into the character. Stella has also hugged Sheldon, touched Adam (before the night at the motel), hugged and or touched Flack, kissed him on the cheek, touched Danny (in his apartment no less). That alone tells me that people see what they want to see in a person's actions.

When it comes time for the "familiar character" to tell Mac of their feelings for him, I hope it's not Stella. To me it would be very selfish of her to wait until he is involved with someone else to tell him what her feelings are, especially when she has had such an active social life herself for the past 5 seasons. I just don't see how I could respect the character if that happens.

There are more ways than just the fact of being displayed on screen as "touchy"

Mac allowed Stella an emotional closeness he didn't allow to anybody else not even Peyton. He allowed himself to be vulnerable,to show his real emotions in front someone different than Claire
You can say "Well, they are the best friends"

And yes, i 'd agree but i am a firm believer, your soulmate MUST be your friend
I mean, what's the point of being married to George when you only express your real feelings to David?

Of course, everything was made in a "subtle" way so in that way non shippers could say it was just a friendship exchange and we, shippers, coul say ther was more than a simple friendship

As usual a matter of perception