"SQWEEGEL" Discussion **Spoilers**

The most shocking scary part of this episode is when Margot returned home from the hospital [against the advice of many] and we see her go upstairs to retrive those secret letters and Sqweegel was hiding up there waiting for her, and she turned around , OMG I screamed:scream: so hideous and so frightening.. and he kept after her.. a real nail biter.. Ann-Margaret did good and was beliveable and convicing trying to escape this freak-show. So he slithers away like a big black bug or snake and this means he will return ? If and when they catch him, maybe they can put him in a jail with Haskell, as cell-mates.. wouldn't that be spooky, freaky and bizarrre:brickwall:
 
^ Yeah, that part did feel like a scary movie. I wish they'd saved this episode for Oct 28th (closer to Halloween). :lol:
 
Why is it that almost every episode thread has a big fight about Raymond, somewhere in it? :( It makes me sad.

Probably because on these boards no one else so stubbornly defends a character with such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. I guess it boggles us that someone can be so un-objective with their favourite character.


I don't think he has such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. He is a great CSI and an interesting person. I am not un-objective. I just don't think it is right for people to bash good characters. How would you like it if I bashed your favorite CSI. You probably wouldn't like that would you.
 
Why is it that almost every episode thread has a big fight about Raymond, somewhere in it? :( It makes me sad.

Probably because on these boards no one else so stubbornly defends a character with such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. I guess it boggles us that someone can be so un-objective with their favourite character.
I don't think he has such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. He is a great CSI and an interesting person. I am not un-objective. I just don't think it is right for people to bash good characters. How would you like it if I bashed your favorite CSI. You probably wouldn't like that would you.

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I was in no way talking about Ray Langston in my quote above.
 
Why is it that almost every episode thread has a big fight about Raymond, somewhere in it? :( It makes me sad.

Probably because on these boards no one else so stubbornly defends a character with such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. I guess it boggles us that someone can be so un-objective with their favourite character.


I don't think he has such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. He is a great CSI and an interesting person. I am not un-objective. I just don't think it is right for people to bash good characters. How would you like it if I bashed your favorite CSI. You probably wouldn't like that would you.

Characters are fictional. I don't care if someone hates a character I like and states their opinion about said character. No character is perfect. Hell, my favorite NY character is Danny and I'm critical of him too. That's what a message board is for, stating your opinion. I don't get people getting all butthurt over things said about a person who doesn't exist. I'm sure Ray doesn't mind what people say about him because he's not real. ;)
 
I don't think he has such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. He is a great CSI and an interesting person. I am not un-objective. I just don't think it is right for people to bash good characters. How would you like it if I bashed your favorite CSI. You probably wouldn't like that would you.

Characters are fictional. I don't care if someone hates a character I like and states their opinion about said character. No character is perfect. Hell, my favorite NY character is Danny and I'm critical of him too. That's what a message board is for, stating your opinion. I don't get people getting all butthurt over things said about a person who doesn't exist. I'm sure Ray doesn't mind what people say about him because he's not real. ;)

Especially since the character doesn't get to dictate what he does in the show, it's the writers who make all the decisions! :lol: Be mad at them, if you must.

Btw, go ahead and bash my favourite character. No one is perfect, no one is written perfectly. But I would dare you to find one example here where someone has deliberately "bashed" Ray. CRITICISM is NOT "Bashing".
 
Why is it that almost every episode thread has a big fight about Raymond, somewhere in it? :( It makes me sad.

Probably because on these boards no one else so stubbornly defends a character with such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. I guess it boggles us that someone can be so un-objective with their favourite character.
I don't think he has such one-sided compliments and sycophantic adjectives. He is a great CSI and an interesting person. I am not un-objective. I just don't think it is right for people to bash good characters. How would you like it if I bashed your favorite CSI. You probably wouldn't like that would you.

It's not bashing--it's called constructive criticism. Like I mentioned a few pages back, I don't care if someone was to 'bash' my favorite character, as long as you have the facts to back up your opinion.
 
I guess it boggles us that someone can be so un-objective with their favourite character.
When you get right down to it, everyone is "un-objective" about their favorite character. By their very nature, opinions are not objective, they're subjective. Research conducted according to scientific criteria is objective.

I think as far as board behavior standards go, everyone's opinions are fine and welcome as long as they're not a personal attack on anyone else.

Ray is not a "newbie" he's been on since S/9, and is not a bumbling idiot, he's a smart experienced man who's been around and knows what he's talking about.
Sorry, but I agree with others who define "newbie" as the newest member of the team . . . which Ray is.

A band director I used to work for told me something I've never forgotten: You never stop being a "freshman". You're a freshman in your first year of high school, then again in college, then again when you start your first job, then again when you transfer to a new job . . . and on it goes all your life. Just because you're not a kid anymore, or you may have reams of experience in a given field, whenever you start over, you're a "freshman" all over again.

Also, my take on the hourglass scene is similar to that of others, that others on the team were humoring Ray while it seemed that he was talking down to them. I don't think he really is; I agree with what someone else said, that that's how he processes things, by thinking out loud to others. But it's coming across as talking down to them, the more experienced members of the team . . . hence the shared looks.

Overall comment: I watched the episode again last night and was even more impressed by how good it was. In some rather intangible ways, it felt like "CSI" of old, with all the series regulars behaving in ways that came across like old friends . . . meaning that their behaviors really resonated with me in a believable way, one that connects with the history of the series. I hope this wasn't Zuiker's last stint with the mothership!
 
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On the episode another charming part was when Nick and Greg discover the creep has been living in the attic EWWWW:klingon:. Greg sees that he somehow squeezed in the tiny window. They are so great working togehter and in tune and collect evidence like the pros that they are. And then Nick says to Ray "Does this make any sense"? Ray: "No, but I'll bet it makes sense to him":confused: when they do catch "Sqweegel" we can find out why he was judging these women and wanted them to repent, who does he think he is their savior? And on the name the letter U usually follows Q, but only Zuiker would have a W after. Wonder if this was his idea?
 
On the episode another charming part was when Nick and Greg discover the creep has been living in the attic EWWWW:klingon:. Greg sees that he somehow squeezed in the tiny window. They are so great working togehter and in tune and collect evidence like the pros that they are. And then Nick says to Ray "Does this make any sense"? Ray: "No, but I'll bet it makes sense to him":confused: when they do catch "Sqweegel" we can find out why he was judging these women and wanted them to repent, who does he think he is their savior? And on the name the letter U usually follows Q, but only Zuiker would have a W after. Wonder if this was his idea?

Fun fact! There are like four or five words that actually do have 'U'-less 'Q's. None of which are common to the English language. Either they came from another language and 'adapted' to English (qoph) or they're products of the computer age (qwerty). Or just made up (Sqweegel).

This completely random fact comes from me having very weird interests - like linguistics. Wanna know the history of the 'F' word? :devil:
 
This in the new TV Guide, dated Oct.25-31-from the CHEERS AND JEERS section~

CHEERS to CSI for bringing Ann-Margaret back to the strip. The "Viva Las Vegas" vet brought glamour, pathos and sex appeal to her role as a Sin City philanthropist with a dark secret who's terrorized by a serial psycho. The 60's siren won an Emmy for her guest gig on L&O SUV last season, and she should earn another nomination PDQ for CSI- Viva Ann-Margaret~And a little pic. of Ray and her accompanying it~

By Bruce Fretts..TV Guide writer!
 
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Dang, are we getting more than the usual number of repeats this season? Just when I get into the flow of a new episode, along comes a repeat.
 
Dang, are we getting more than the usual number of repeats this season? Just when I get into the flow of a new episode, along comes a repeat.

This seems to be the last repeat for a couple of weeks

next week is The Two Mrs. Grissoms, the week after is All the Cermains, and the week after that is Targets of Obsession, then it's on to March Madness, Yay!!! :rolleyes:

Even though it's rerun I'm still excited for this one :)
 
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