"Secrets and Flies" Discussion **Beware Spoilers**

Great episode!!!! Very little Nick but I still enjoyed it. Greg was great -- what a cutie. I loved Hodges little lecture to Warrick. Grissom did a great job. I even liked Ecklie. And Bobby! What a doll! Sarah and Catherine worked well together again.

Besides the character development, I thought both cases were interesting and not predictable at all.

One minor detail-type peeve. The mother was a size 12? Pfft! I don't think so! I'm a size 12 and I'm at least 30 pounds lighter than she looked. Anyway -- technicalities. :p :)

I'm glad Nick got a wee spot in there but, after his great work on Gum Drops, I guess it was okay that Grissom and others got some extra time this episode. And the new lab tech? She's loopy! But cute. :)

I have to agree the epsiode could have used more of Nicky but other than that it was a really great episode. I loved the plot twists more than anything. :)
 
I don't think Grissom seemed too arrogant. I admit he had one awfully big smirk on his face in the end though. :D

I don't know if I would go for arrogant... but I do think he was both satisfied that he had figured how the experiment had been manipulated and that it was manipulated in the first place. Grissom is first, last and always a scientist. For one of his fellow bug people to "rig" the results of such a test would be, for him, a sacrilege. So, it made sense that he would be so motivated to uncover the lie and present the truth, and was pleased he had been able to do it.
 
I agree ABHarding. I think at that point that Grissom has every reason to be proud of himself. He worked hard to prove Thayer wrong and did a darned good job of it.

I was just watching the whole thing I had a pretty smug look on my face too! HA HA
 
ITA, abharding. Besides, every fella needs to slam the ball through the hoop and yell "OWNED!!" once in a while. :D There's just more than one way to do it. And he was entitled this time, I'd say!

--Robin
 
korbjaeger, I love your avatar! That is awesome and each is very accurate! I especially like "The Prodigy". Man............those are good!

And Baba, I just laugh every time I see your bustin' moves...........that's too darned funny!

Going back a little to the Hodges thing with Warrick and Cath. I just loved that scene. Some people said that he needed to mind his own business, but I think why I liked it so much was simply because it was so "Hodges" and he can crack a remark like that without ever cracking a smile and with that guy you can never tell whether he is joking or not. So he always leaves you wondering and that usually gets his point accross. I don't think he was "offended" at Warrick so to speak over the comment, it was just a good way to bring up the fact that "you can't go back" to the way things used to be with Cath because now you are married. I just thought it was well done and still cringe at the thought of the writers making Warrick out to be a bad husband. I soooooooooo don't want to see that happen. I'm a huge Warrick/Cath fan, but it's got to be done right or left alone. That's what I am hoping.
 
I really liked this episode! Of this season it's the best so far after Gum Drops.
Good ethical issue, and two ineresting cases.
A smiling Sara, always a pleasure. And a lot of nice character scenes. Great!!
 
Fabian, something we can agree on, this episode was fabulous. The chemistry between the cast as a whole is so strong, and while I hated Sofia in s5, I kinda wish they'd show her more now. Louise Lombard is charming.

VERY good episode, and GCR - mmmm.
 
I missed the start of the episode and I have to write a paper analyzing the forensics in the episode. How did the CSIs pick up the gun when they found it? Did they do a gun shot residue test onsight on the victim (to see if hands were clean) or did they simply look at blood splatter, see none, and therefore not suicide?
Does anyone know where I can view this opening clip on line? I don't want to download the episode or anything. I just need to see the opening part before the credits.

THANKS! :)
 
I missed the start of the episode and I have to write a paper analyzing the forensics in the episode. How did the CSIs pick up the gun when they found it? Did they do a gun shot residue test onsight on the victim (to see if hands were clean) or did they simply look at blood splatter, see none, and therefore not suicide?
Does anyone know where I can view this opening clip on line? I don't want to download the episode or anything. I just need to see the opening part before the credits.

THANKS! :)

At www.omaetoy.net you can usually download clips. However they don't have that particular scene.

After rewatching this portion of the ep for you, here's the play by play:

Brass, catherine and Sara discuss the situation. Catherine looks at the suicide note on the table that was left behind. Sara starts putting her gloves on while catherine reads the note.

Sara photographs while David gives the vic's vitals. Discussion on motive, etc.

Sara, after asking David's permission to examine the gun if he's done with his part, picks up the gun out of Christina's hand. She picks it up by the frame that goes around the trigger and the lever that cocks the bullet. (sorry I don't know the correct gun terminology)

Catherine, again with gloves on, reaches down to move Christina's hand over. Her hand was facing palm up when she died and is moved to lay palmdown.

Sara opens the gun's magazine (is that what the bullet chamber is called? :confused: ) and peers inside where she comments that only one bullet was fired.

Catherine tells Sara to look at the blood on Christina's hand. Sara says there isn't any and mentions that the gun is covered in dried blood though.

They mention that it was planted and not a suicide. Then opening credits roll.
 
Due to the rules of the board discussing downloading is not allowed, please refrain from it and thank you. ;)
 
Since I'm bit behind with LV... I just watched this episode and first. I liked Sara in this one :p
Second... I was glad to see something different. Even it was Gris - Bug centred.

Then I want to say.

IT*S MASTAR BRA'TAC!
I kept saying that to myself whole scene.

Tony Amendola, who played that Hand writing analysist, as been guest start in Stargate - SG1 as Master Bra'tac.
He has played hand writing analysist earlier in CSI season 1.. buit also played "Landlord" in season 5 episode "Viva Las Vegas" (I yelled also then MASTER BRA'TAC!)
 
Repeating On February 16, 2005. Possibly due to the olympics being on.
Air Date: 11/3/05 (THURSDAY)
Time Slot: 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on CBS
Episode Title: "Secrets and Flies"

THE EVIDENCE IN A YOUNG MOTHER'S SUICIDE LEADS THE CSI TEAM TO SUSPECT FOUL PLAY.


"Secrets and Flies" -- The CSI team uncovers evidence in the investigation of a young mother's suicide that proves that the woman's newborn baby was not her biological child -- in fact, she was still technically a virgin at the time of her death. If the team discovers how the child was conceived, the answer may lead them to a killer. Meanwhile, Grissom is called into court to refute expert witness testimony from a suspected manipulator of evidence.

Gil Grissom: William Petersen
Catherine Willows: Marg Helgenberger
Warrick Brown: Gary Dourdan
Nick Stokes: George Eads
Captain Jim Brass: Paul Guilfoyle
Sara Sidle: Jorja Fox
Greg Sanders: Eric Szmanda
Dr. Robbins: Robert David Hall
David Phillips: David Berman
Sophia Curtis: Louise Lombard
Hodges: Wallace Langham
Archie Johnson: Archie Kao
Conrad Ecklie: Marc Vann
Bobby Dawson: Gerald McCullouch
Officer Akers: Larry Sullivan
Judge Witherspoon: Tina Lifford
Adam Matthews: James Patrick Stuart
Jeffrey Sinclair: Erik Jensen
Professor Rambar: Tony Amendola
Carol Allred: Meredith Scott Lynn
Lana Adalian: Ashleigh Sumner
Christina Adalian: Amy Sloan
UnderSheriff McKeen: Conor O'Farrell
Mark Thayer: Jeffrey Nordling
Clerk: Laura James
Shop Manager: Tim Talman
Evan Peters: Tayler Sheridan
Duane McWane: William Allen Young
Wendy Simms: Liz Vassey
Henry Andrews: Jon Wellner
Rita Day: Yvette Nipar
Dr. Emily Ryan: Caroline Goodall
Kenli Johnson: Kristin Bauer
Sandra Walkey: Jenny O'Hara

RATING: To Be Announced

LINKS:
Thanks For Announcement
CBS Promo
Grissom Uncovers Both 'Secrets & Flies' On 'CSI'
 
i loved it!!!!! loved the character interactions, loved the cases, and i totally loved catherine standing up against the religious girl, lol...she got owned!!

That sounds SO much like Cahterine! Okay, so i didn't see the eppy...not exactly sure why, but it's on again this Thursday, and I will make SURE I see it!
 
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