Season 8 *Spoiler Lab* Discussion - Part 2

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*yay* new thread! :D Wow, the season hasn't even started and we're on to the second thread already...and I'm sure there are plenty more spoilers to come. :)

OK, the last episode that we got spoilers for is #805 - The Chick Chop Flick Shop. :rolleyes: I have to say, I thought the episode titles had hit a new low with 'The Cross Dressing Carp' but this is just getting ridiculous...

So to recap (I think these details are correct), #805 - Nick and Catherine are on the case of a actress murdered at a studio filming a horror movie, Brass is there too. Veronica 'Ronnie' is also mentioned, she appears to be scared and gets herself into a very dangerous situation.

Other details: Catherine gets chatted up by a dwarf, he is quite persistent. Archie is in this episode too (yay for Archie, he's a favourite of mine). That's pretty much it so far. No mention of the others, and as always these are just spoilers so are subject to change. :)
 
From what I've read about Catherine and the dwarf, it sounds pretty funny. He's coming on to her/flirting and she tells him to leave her alone but he keeps it up. She tries to ignor him but he won't be ignored.

Later he calls her cell phone and tells her he has vital info for her and she should meet him at the studio, she's annoyed by him but agrees anyway.
 
So, my feeling is this: Eckley will be gone this season. Possibly taken out, possibly caught up in scandal, possible moving up to a more politcal position. That would possibly allow Grissom to move up to run the overall lab, technically the position he had in season 1 episode 2, but I digress.

This would have a couple of benefits for the show (and for Billy): First off, the episodes could become less Grissom centric. He could come in and consult on almost any case, and yet not have to lead any case. It could also mean there would be episodes where he wouldn't appear at all, or only in passing. For him as an actor, it would make it easier to do what he did last season, taking a month or so off to do what he enjoys.

For the show, it would open up the position of night supervisor, potentially to Catherine. That in turn would open up a CSI position, maybe for a CSI3 or even a trainee. Sara potentially being out of commission or even off the show for an extended period might do the same. So right away, you are looking at two potential openings.

Also, with Grissom at the top, the staff of other shifts could come into play, which would be another way to put new CSIs into the mix.

That would give the show at least a couple of new openings in the team for this season, and make it easier to transition in the next season.

As a side note, this is also very good for the network, as they would be replacing more expensive long term stars with lower cost performers. Getting the new people signed to three or four year contracts at reasonable prices would help to keep the costs of producing the show in control, which is key in the continued tight market. A transition of staff would also allow the show to have much longer legs, possibly going on well past a 10th season without issue.

So for me, the spoilers are this: Sara is likely (and sadly) either dead, severly injured, or mentally unable to continue in the job and takes significant time off. This would likely be a period that CBS could judge the effects of removing her from the show. Grissom is likely to get promoted up further, and Catherine takes over his current position, freeing up space to add two new characters before the season is half over.
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Interesting and well-thought take, I appreciate what went into this. Of course "interesting" and "well-thought" are far from guarantees that's the direction a show will go, but... :lol:

The Grissom resolution would be ideal - he wouldn't "leave" the show per se and could pop back in and out as wanted/needed. Of course this might cut Marc Vann out of a gig (partially or completely), but who knows what else he's got going - I've seen him on other shows in recent years. It'd be a neat, convenient and versatile plot turn.

Also, as far as new CSI's, there could be an opportunity to "promote from within". I know we already saw Greg go from lab rat to CSI, but eight years into a show it wouldn't be over-redundant to have that happen again, especially to a character who hasn't been as up front all the time as Greg. Or, maybe not a lab rat, maybe a detective. We saw Sofia sort of ping-ponged between the two, maybe another detective would take to it...better? Worse? Just differently?

And your idea of subbing in a newer, lower-market actor or actors? Very NBA-ish, I must say. :D Like when the Mavs cut higher-ticket free agent Steve Nash loose and signed a #5 draft pick...okay, maybe that's a bad comparison. (A REAL bad one, since Steve won league MVP the next two years...) But structurally, the comparison stands. Sports teams do it all the time, they'll choose not to re-sign a high-priced free agent or they'll trade a fading star with a bloated contract for draft picks and promising bench-riders. That clears up salary cap room and/or makes their trading options broader. Risky? Sure...but in TV, as in hoops, you've got people who know who's out there and what they're capable of, and "CSI" has an excellent track record in terms of picking talent. The "standing" cast members, from Bill Petersen to...I dunno, Vicki Prescott and Jose Zuniga...are all top-of-the-line actors. If they bring in anyone new, I'm sure they'll be a great addition. (I know there are plenty of other ways in which the sports comparison doesn't fit, but...the ways in which it does sometimes amuse me...)
 
I COMPLETELY agree with Wojo and S_Bright. Such a total knock off of Grave Danger. I am surprised that I am even watching this season. Last season was so bad I ALMOST turned to Grey's Anatomy! :eek: Last season was horrible! :p If they really wanted to shake up things and give us viewers something new, than they should kill off Sara. :devil:

I thought that the acting on Jorja Fox's part was Horrible. :lol: "Oh no. Don't do this, Natalie."

Very Convincing... :rolleyes:
 
WOW, such different opinions. I didn't think it was anything like ,or close to "Grave Danger' and S/7 to me, was one of the best seasons ever, the MCSK series, was riveting and so interesting and such a totally different concept, kept my interest, and apparently the 'buzz' out there, Sara is in ep 3 working with Doc, Cath and the new girl, and her acting is superb and atonishing, and so beliveable ;)And has anyone ever considered the possibility that the 'crunching' sound we hear on the video, is not Sara's bones but a big rock under the car, many rocks in the desert!
 
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WOW, such different opinions. I didn't think it was anything like ,or close to "Grave Danger' and S/7 to me, was one of the best seasons ever, the MCSK series, was riveting and so interesting and such a totally different concept, kept my interest, and apparently the 'buzz' out there, Sara is in ep 3 working with Doc, Cath and the new girl, and her acting is superb and atonishing, and so beliveable ;)
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I agree I see a lot difference with grave danger also I think Jorja acting is wonderful and IMO season 7 was brilliant.
 
Delia said:
desertwind said:
WOW, such different opinions. I didn't think it was anything like ,or close to "Grave Danger' and S/7 to me, was one of the best seasons ever, the MCSK series, was riveting and so interesting and such a totally different concept, kept my interest, and apparently the 'buzz' out there, Sara is in ep 3 working with Doc, Cath and the new girl, and her acting is superb and atonishing, and so beliveable ;)
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I agree I see a lot difference with grave danger also I think Jorja acting is wonderful and IMO season 7 was brilliant.
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agree w/ you both
and they've done repeats before, especially in their serials.. paul milander, the blue paint killer.. both spanned several episodes, both planted evidence connected to other cases, both committed suicide just as grissom and the team caught on...
peole aren't ever completely original. after seven years, some things are going to be similar. it's a given.
we've only seen eighteen seconds of jorja's "acting" and i think it looks as believable, if not more so, than most of the stuff on the show. season seven was great, all teh seasons were... :mad: must we be so negative?
 
wow...super new promo clip during the rerun of loco motives. Its got me super stoked for the season premier even more now!! More of a detailed clip!! *it'll be up on youtube soon enough, I'm sure, for those who missed or never watched the rerun.*
 
WHOA :eek: what the H, is she screaming, I can't recognize the word? poor girl, friggin' freak show Natalie, then the coyote, then a rain storm! lord have mercy... be strong Sara, help is on the way :( this ep. might be my demise :(
 
Wow. How does Sara escape the flood? If she does... Maybe the flood is really strong and lifts the car up or something? That's just my wishful thinking though.
 
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