Much to catch up on again
. Can't believe the season is almost done. Seems earlier, especially with only 22 episodes.
Seems a few things keep coming up. Fears for how the show (and potentially series) may end bring forth zombie pinatas
. I will try to keep this focused on upcoming eps.
Originally Posted by PHANTOMERIK
Ok so I'm sitting here hoping with all my heart that this idea of a possible Mac/Jo hook up rearing it's ugly head again is either some sort of bad April's fool joke or elaborate smoke screen being set up for the season finale come bad dream.
...erm... what Mac/Jo Hook-Up? It doesn't it look like the show will do anything but ever-so-vaguely flirt with the notion, or rather, flirt with a minor attraction and interaction between the characters. That whole !Tension thing.
Nothing unexpected has come up between them this season. Well, OK, I did not expect Jo to have once been an accountant for a burlesque club. Who knew. But other than
that, not much
. I kinda doubt that NY"s Exit Strategy has Mac and Jo crossing any lines. But who knows.
I make no secret that I don't care for Jo and if it was down to me (being honest fess up )and nearly everyone else that given the choice Stella would still be resident and it would ba a case of Jo who.
Nearly everyone else? I don't begrudge anyone their opinion. I do find it curious anyone would presume to speak for an unknown majority.
I was sad to see Stella go. I was definitely keen to see Jo come aboard and what she'd bring. The show needed a nudge. I like both characters. So. Wait. Does this make me one of "everyone else?" Or part of "nearly?" I guess I must be Nearly. So confusing
.
"Given the choice" is apt. There was a choice.
It was Melina's.
She left.
No one outside the show knows the circumstances nor all that factored in. It is none of our business. The decision rested ultimately with MK. Jo Who came about cos MK declined to continue, making the irreplaceable Stella replaceable. I certainly don't begrudge MK her choice, nor SW for joining. It takes stones to pursue something new. Both MK & SW did.
However if we must endure her presence instead of the irreplaceable Ms Bonasera then at least TPTB should do us the courtesy of keeping Jo and Mac's relationship purely PLATONIC
So far as I know, having seen all the eps (so far) this season, their relationship
is purely platonic. Has been. All season. Looks like it will remain such.
(And I very much doubt it has to do with a courtesy extended).
we've more than earned our right to a happy Smacked ending over the years
There were no promises made. Mac and Stella's relationship was platonic as well. What, there should be an order of seniority of time-in determining which relationship, if any, should be pursued, even in absentia?
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Further, why should a procedural aim for a champagne ending.
Setting aside the continued presumption of a royal "we," I also don't see how one fandom demographic should be given preference over any other, nor over fans and viewers who may not so affiliate themselves.
go out with a little class.
A designed two-part internal cliff-hanger sounds like it is upping the echelon of class. By way of scale if nothing else. And Peter Fonda is certainly nothing to sniff at as a guest. Dunno too much about 7.22 yet.
The fact that they had a little time and initiative to contemplate whether the season 7 finale might be a series finale, and try to produce one that would be satisfying either way, also speaks to a certain class; of intent, of their own affection for the show and the characters, and of their acknowledgment of their viewing audience.
We'll hafta wait and see what they actually managed to put together of course, my glass typically half full may wind up being bounced off a screen :lol: but for now I'm sipping contently.
I'm so with you PHANTOMERIK. If this is the last season of CSI:NY, then let it be open-ended, NOT via cliffhanger but Mac/Jo be an open-ended idea and it's up to audiences to decide if it were to go further, but also not piss off the huge legions of SMacked fans
It sounds like the tack taken may be more along the lines of The City Never Sleeps. In other words, if not open-ended then undetermined. You are likely to have, in large part, what you wish for.
My apologies, but I remain unconvinced that Smack is a consideration for the writers. Why would they shortchange the characters they have for one who is no longer available. Besides, apparently some Smack fans are
already pissed off.
At this point, honestly, what does the show have to lose. It may be done, it may get another season. This season is in the can, either way. What could they have done but continue to proceed as they see fit (or wrap it up as they see fit.)
To date, Jo and Mac have resisted the urge to jump each other.
At this point, I'm pretty much at the point of saying "so what" if they ever do.
If this Mac/Jo thing that was pulled out of the trash pile becomes canon and CSI:NY actually is gone, it might as well be that I, PHANTOMERIK, Lori K., Macsgirlmel, Karlia, and other SMacked/Stella/Melina fans might as well kick the shows corpse around like a soccer ball or use the shows dead body like a pinata.
:angryrazz:
Now that's classy :lol: Dude. Being perpetually up in arms must get exhausting.
Good lord, you'd nearly think Jo had been introduced the morning after a night before with Mac, partaken shortly after he'd driven Stella to the airport :lol:. Jo wasn't so introduced. Minus the airport, that was Peyton's gig
. Jo was introduced over a corpse. Not the show's. Not Smack's. That of a fictional character in service of a plot. Getting on with S7.
Obutwait. Wait a sec. Peyton said Mac was a good cook and Mac said something about burgers. Andomgbut
Macjustofferedtobuy
Joa
burger after
Josaid
Macwouldmakeagood
Dad sowhatdoesit!mean
holycrapthey'regonnasleeptogether andthenskipoverseas butnotgreece and
adoptagazillionkidsfromimpoverishednations anddrinkchampagne
owaithesaid
beer ifonlyhe'dsaid
hotdogs itmightameant
Stella andthenallwouldberightwiththeuniverse...
I understand some people miss Stella. I understand some people don't like Jo. I understand some shippers resent that their ship was never made canon. I understand some shippers resent even that the mere possibility exists that a different pairing has the potential of being made canon whereas their favored one was never realized. Flack and Danny could also get together and ride off to Georgia in slow motion. Sheldon could dump Camille and buy Adam a sparkly belt. Or a bejewelled carrot bong. It's all on the same realm of possibility. The show could go out with all manner of quadruple rainbows out the wazoo (take that on any level ya like, kids
). Would be a fun Exit Strategy, but not one I'd bet on. Still. Ya never know.
(Then again, mebbe the implied tragedies will deepen relationships. I mean, who knows who Adam might get to sleep with this time
)
The show has been taking a beating from some since MK left, simply because she left. I suppose it would be silly of me to ask, why kick the show around as a pinata on certain fears before respective eps have even aired and their true content made known?
CSI: New York Boss Teases an "Amazing Nemesis" for Mac
Thanks. Fun to read
WANT MORE? CSI: NY Producers Talk Danny-Lindsay Love
...erm...NO, BUT THANKS FOR ASKING. :lol:. Am unenticed. Not my cuppa.
There are moments within their relationship that we get to see as Hawkes plays a little bit of hooky and starts to wonder if she's a bad influence or good influence? Is there a part that maybe excites him, does it mesh with his personality? How does that work with his responsibilities on the job? Those kinds of issues come up for him and it's interesting.
...well, that is something that they accomplished, granted. Seen in that light there's less for me to quibble with, I suppose
. I still hope to get to the grading thread to comment on that ep at some point.
We set something up—I don't want to get too much into the finale but something comes up where they just start thinking a little bit more about the future. I don't want to tease that too much and honestly in these last few episodes—because we dealt with Danny (Carmine Giovinazzo) and Lindsay (Anna Belknap) so heavily at the end of last season with Shane Casey (Edward Furlong) and everything that happened up at the lighthouse with Lucy, the truth is we kind of took a step back so we could pay a little more attention to Jo and her relationship with her kids and the daughter that she adopted.
If stepping back meant no overt plot lines (except for that whole medal and pshrink business), and no constant references, reminders, and foisted moments of cuteness made periodically, complete to enlisting other characters in doing so, even EDNA (never happens, hell, I'd almost forgotten they were a couple), but there were actually a few efforts here and there made to write material for either character separate from DL (which there admittedly was), then yes, they sure stepped back.
. don't get me wrong. I'm glad Jo got some attention. But DL surely haven't suffered for lack of it. Food for Thought was just the latest example wot proves that :lol:.
There's a two-episode arc, episodes 20 and 21, where we introduce Peter Fonda. His character is Mac's old partner, back in the day when Mac first joined the NYPD, he had a few years on Mac in the department and they dealt with things differently. They always had a different perspective on law enforcement and how they do the job. But an old old case comes back to haunt them and through episodes 20 and 21 you learn what that is and what their differences are and how that comes to a head. To see two heavyweights like Gary Sinise and Peter Fonda is a lot of fun.
This sounds promising.
I'm looking forward to seeing someone from days when Mac wasn't top dog, should be fun. Someone who knows him in a way different from his team is interesting. Someone who was a more experienced partner with a different approach to the job is interesting, especially if they butted heads in a serious way. A case/criminal that targets the partner as opposed to Mac is a welcome twist, given that Mac has had his own criminal fan club over the years :lol:.
To have someone like Peter Fonda guest on the show, and have a lot of scenes opposite Gary should be good viewing. To have an action-heavy arc also sounds like fun. Looking forward to it.
Our spoiler sleuthing on CSI:NY never stops, so when sharp eyes spotted a CSI: New York filming sign—not in downtown L.A., which the show usually dresses to make look like NYC, but a horse-filled rural Los Angeles suburb—we had to grill coexecutive producer Zachary Reiter about it. He relented and told us: "Uh-oh, uh-oh. That was the finale. Suffice to say that it takes us out of New York City for a stretch."
....If the season (and possibly series) finale ends with Danny and Lindsay riding horses in slow motion, I might strain something. :scream:
:lol:.
I'm hoping this is more indicative of the show heading further afield while on a case, ie. pulling an NCIS, what with their fondness for turning California into Arizona and suchlike. Could be flashbacks or something similar too?
From what I've heard, the main reason behind the pairing/marriage of Danny/Lindsay was Gary Sinise's objection to having a character on the show be an unwed mother.
Rly? ...Curious, as the saying goes.
I would be hugely surprised if GS at all cared about a main character being an un-wed single parent. A network suit somewhere, on the other hand, mebbe. And yet. Among all the stuff the show has written over the years, story wise and character wise, there'd be a problem on that front? Not something I'd give much credence to.
Some of ya point out Jo/Ellie. Might I also point out that Mac's wife, Claire, had a baby out of wedlock and gave it up for adoption? Being Reed? There didn't seem to be issues there as part of a back-story
.
I shrug. Rather irrelevant to me, but for the implication that GS is somehow responsible for the current state of DL :lol:.
I don't really know why the show chose to write in the pregnancy in S5, but they certainly changed the direction of a few things when they did. Unlikely that didn't come from higher up.
They shelved their plans to have Danny & Lindsay move in separate directions, and wrote the characters predictable hurdles en route to a conventional family, and a relationship that since has dominated the majority of their screen time. Some enjoy it. Can't say I'm one.
I don't know if it's supposed to be relevant to the finale or not. It seems a bit random - showing the personal storylines makes sense, but why show so much of the cases themselves? IDK, what do you guys think?
I thought it was odd. Especially showing so much of the Lindsay crap from the premiere.
They always seem rather oddly selected compilations to me :lol:.
Back and forth on whether to go clicky w/ all this. Clicky won. Editing lost. Sry.
