Season 12 Spoiler Lab Discussion Part 2

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Does anyone else think that 12x08 might have a lot to do with Catherine? Cause I swear I remember a spoiler saying something about her past coming back to haunt her....

ETA: I take that back. I looked back and saw that it said her final case and something about stopping at nothing to get the truth. Don't mind me. I'm an overworked civil servant. :lol:
 
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Agh! A love triangle?!! This is just what I was afraid of. I like Brody, please don't turn her into the love interest!

Also, can I admit to being disappointed that its one of the new CSI characters that's in peril once again? The did the same with Riley and Langston when they had the two of them taken hostage by that tweaker kid. I realise its a great way to develop a new character (and in Morgan's case, help reunite with her father) but have the writers learned nothing from the Langston fiasco? Please can we have more screen time with the original characters Greg, Sara, Catherine and Brass (I love Nick but he got plenty of screen time with Langston over the last few seasons). Am I the only one that feels this way? :(
Nope, I feel the same way.

But like you said, they use the new CSI in peril as a way to know the character more. I guess they can't figure out another way to get to know them more.

I agree also

yeah, it feels like they might be pulling off another 'Riley/Langston in peril'. maybe it will be a good episode, but c'mon there are plenty of ways to develop a new character without having him/her be put in danger, especially when he/she is just starting out. well, then again, despite the 'hostage thing' in "No Way Out", at least almost all of the original characters had good scenes and/or a pretty decent amount of screen time in that particular episode; I think I'll only really be worried if half or more than half of the season ends up focusing mainly on the two newbies, the same way seasons 9-11 were mainly focused on Ray, and so far I don't see that happening, not yet anyway. like I said before though, it could end up being a good episode, we'll see.


oh the love triangles; and now CSI is getting one too? one of the things I liked about this show in general was that even when they did have romances or potential romances they weren't overdramatic and didn't make the series turn into a soap opera; I know, I'm probably overreacting but I really hope they make the whole thing subtle or something if not drop it.
 
Agh! A love triangle?!! This is just what I was afraid of. I like Brody, please don't turn her into the love interest!

Also, can I admit to being disappointed that its one of the new CSI characters that's in peril once again? The did the same with Riley and Langston when they had the two of them taken hostage by that tweaker kid. I realise its a great way to develop a new character (and in Morgan's case, help reunite with her father) but have the writers learned nothing from the Langston fiasco? Please can we have more screen time with the original characters Greg, Sara, Catherine and Brass (I love Nick but he got plenty of screen time with Langston over the last few seasons). Am I the only one that feels this way? :(

Well, both Marg and Paul asked for less screentime and episodes, and Jorja doesn't want to do every episode. So that is their choice.

As for Greg, well, he's a supporting character and they will always get less screentime.

Personally, I don't think there's enough Nick. :p

And Russell is the new guy and a lead, so he will be featured the most.
 
Agh! A love triangle?!! This is just what I was afraid of. I like Brody, please don't turn her into the love interest!

Also, can I admit to being disappointed that its one of the new CSI characters that's in peril once again? The did the same with Riley and Langston when they had the two of them taken hostage by that tweaker kid. I realise its a great way to develop a new character (and in Morgan's case, help reunite with her father) but have the writers learned nothing from the Langston fiasco? Please can we have more screen time with the original characters Greg, Sara, Catherine and Brass (I love Nick but he got plenty of screen time with Langston over the last few seasons). Am I the only one that feels this way? :(

Well, both Marg and Paul asked for less screentime and episodes, and Jorja doesn't want to do every episode. So that is their choice.

As for Greg, well, he's a supporting character and they will always get less screentime.

Greg is a main character, CSI is not The Nick and DB Show or The Nick and Ray Show, it's an ensemble

And yeah some have lessened their time, Eric hasn't and he's been getting a real short stick at times in recent years

Personally, I don't think there's enough Nick. :p

And when will your satsifaction be met? I'd be beyond thrilled for Greg to get some of the stuff Nick gets
 
Agh! A love triangle?!! This is just what I was afraid of. I like Brody, please don't turn her into the love interest!

Also, can I admit to being disappointed that its one of the new CSI characters that's in peril once again? The did the same with Riley and Langston when they had the two of them taken hostage by that tweaker kid. I realise its a great way to develop a new character (and in Morgan's case, help reunite with her father) but have the writers learned nothing from the Langston fiasco? Please can we have more screen time with the original characters Greg, Sara, Catherine and Brass (I love Nick but he got plenty of screen time with Langston over the last few seasons). Am I the only one that feels this way? :(

Well, both Marg and Paul asked for less screentime and episodes, and Jorja doesn't want to do every episode. So that is their choice.

As for Greg, well, he's a supporting character and they will always get less screentime.

Greg is a main character, CSI is not The Nick and DB Show or The Nick and Ray Show, it's an ensemble

And yeah some have lessened their time, Eric hasn't and he's been getting a real short stick at times in recent years

Personally, I don't think there's enough Nick. :p

And when will your satsifaction be met? I'd be beyond thrilled for Greg to get some of the stuff Nick gets

Being a main character has no bearing. He's a supporting character just like Nick was at one time, when Nick didn't get that much screentime

Nick is finally getting his due and who knows after Marg leaves maybe Greg will be featured more.
 
Well, both Marg and Paul asked for less screentime and episodes, and Jorja doesn't want to do every episode. So that is their choice.

As for Greg, well, he's a supporting character and they will always get less screentime.

Greg is a main character, CSI is not The Nick and DB Show or The Nick and Ray Show, it's an ensemble

And yeah some have lessened their time, Eric hasn't and he's been getting a real short stick at times in recent years

Personally, I don't think there's enough Nick. :p

And when will your satsifaction be met? I'd be beyond thrilled for Greg to get some of the stuff Nick gets

Being a main character has no bearing. He's a supporting character just like Nick was at one time, when Nick didn't get that much screentime

Nick is finally getting his due and who knows after Marg leaves maybe Greg will be featured more.

Catherine and DB are the leads so that means Nick is still a supporting character as well. :rolleyes:
 
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Guys, we've asked you nicely several times not to snipe at each other and get pissy over semantics and opinions. This is a formal request to cut it out now.

You're allowed to dislike characters and say so. You're allowed to like characters and say so. If you don't like what someone is saying then ignore them, but do not get into a bitch-fest about it. Just stop it.
 
Well, it's a good thing shows can have more than two leads and tptb think highly of George to give him the screentime he gets.

Who knows what will happen after Marg leaves.
 
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Greg is a main character, CSI is not The Nick and DB Show or The Nick and Ray Show, it's an ensemble

And yeah some have lessened their time, Eric hasn't and he's been getting a real short stick at times in recent years



And when will your satsifaction be met? I'd be beyond thrilled for Greg to get some of the stuff Nick gets

Being a main character has no bearing. He's a supporting character just like Nick was at one time, when Nick didn't get that much screentime

Nick is finally getting his due and who knows after Marg leaves maybe Greg will be featured more.

Catherine and DB are the leads so that means Nick is still a supporting character as well. :rolleyes:

Quit your whining!:shifty:
 
TV Guide has a CSI cover story out this week. Check it out.

Here's part of it. Sounds like they're making us buy the TV Guide to get the rest.

Love the picture of Ted and Marg. :D

CSI Cheers up with Ted Danson

It's hard to imagine Sam Malone from Cheers needing a maggot wrangler. "I've never seen anything like it," Ted Danson says. Even with silver hair, the Emmy-winning actor looks like a kid who just pulled apart his first earthworm. "You can tell how long a human body has been decomposing by the size of the bugs crawling inside!" And the wrangler's got every variety. "It's incredible, until you think, 'Oh, God. We're talking about dead people.'"

Everybody's favorite TV barkeep is once again serving cold ones — only now he's zipping them inside body bags. The surprising new choice to head the Las Vegas crime lab on CSI brings an iconic face to the world's most venerable procedural. Danson, also known for Damages and Bored to Death, takes over for Laurence Fishburne as CSI's leading man in Season 12, and hopes to breathe some life back into the formerly top-rated series.

Sitting in a conference room dotted with grisly crime photos on the L.A. set, Danson says his biggest challenge is, "How can a guy like me, who looks for the joy in every situation, make the transition to the land of triple homicides?" He shrugs. "And, hey, I'm also a hypochondriac and run from violence — we're talking major stretch."

At least everybody knows his name. As new CSI supervisor D.B. Russell, Danson, 63, appears to have transitioned nicely into a cast as tightly knit as any on TV. Three of his new work buddies — Marg Helgenberger (Catherine Willows), George Eads (Nick Stokes) and Paul Guilfoyle (Las Vegas police captain Jim Brass) — have been part of CSI's cast for all 250-plus episodes. That meant Danson had to work his charm even before he arrived on set. "He called me two or three times just to say, 'Hey, what's up?'" Eads says. "I was like, 'Not much. Um, who's this?' He's, like, 'It's Ted.' I go, 'Ted? Oh, Ted Danson! Sorry, man. How the heck are ya?'" (To further ingratiate himself, Danson has sprung for on-set massages and a shaved-ice truck for the crew.)

Helgenberger admits she raised an eyebrow when she heard he was coming to CSI. "You think Ted Danson and you mainly think comedy," she says. "But pretty quickly, I said, 'OK, yeah, that makes sense.'"

Word around Hollywood after Fishburne's departure last summer was that CBS would cast another intense actor. But with ratings flagging — the show finished at No. 30 last season among viewers ages 18 to 49 — it was time for a reboot. "We wanted to get back to the excitement of the first few seasons and Ted fits our needs exactly," says executive producer Carol Mendelsohn. "Having Ted around brightens every scene and adds a deeper emotional layer than we've seen in many years."

Still, even Danson was surprised. He received the offer last summer as he was waiting to see a movie in Martha's Vineyard, where he and his wife, actress Mary Steenburgen, have a vacation house. Danson had been looking for ways to avoid traveling for work now that he has grandchildren in L.A. A weekly gig on an established show was a no-brainer. "The lights in the theater were going down so I didn't have long to react," he says. "My first thought was 'Wow.' My second thought was 'Yes!'"

D.B. Russell isn't like other CSIs. After blustery boss Gil Grissom (William Petersen) and divisive newbie Ray Langston (Fishburne), Russell looks like Mr. Happy. His slowly unfolding backstory is that he's a former lit major and child of beatnik folk singers who comes to Vegas from Seattle with his still unseen wife and four kids. "What we love is that Russell is unconventional and at odds with authority, having grown up going to peace rallies and sit-ins," Mendelsohn says. "But he's also a devoted family man who thrives on the chaos of the lab because he's raising a bunch of teenagers."

To prepare for the role, Danson flew to Vegas to witness a real autopsy, a moment he calls a spiritual experience. "I held a guy's skull in my hands as another guy scooped his brain out," he says. "It was an incredible reminder of how valuable and fragile life is. This sort of work forces you to reflect on every moment you're alive."

Later on the set, Danson and Helgenberger, in requisite rubber gloves, are going through a box of evidence in the CSI lab. The scene is for an upcoming episode called "CSI Down," and they're looking for clues to track a murder suspect who just hijacked a medevac helicopter.

Helgenberger seems as cool as the steel table below her, but Danson is keyed up. He's flubbed a few takes and now wants to open the scene mid-sentence to make it feel more conversational. His agitation is useful since Russell is desperate to save CSI Morgan Brody (Elisabeth Harnois), who is on board the helicopter. Two more takes and Danson nails it. "In comedy, you never have to say, 'OK, so this is what we're going to do,'" he says afterward. "Here, the dialogue is all about laying pipe for the next scene. It takes some getting used to." Helgenberger is quick to defend him: "Ted's a pro. He already feels like part of the fabric of the show."


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