Ratings: CSI vs ... Part 2

Jasmine said:
Well as long as we beat Grey's that good. Was Grey's a new episode too?...oh well im a Jorja fan and i still watched it but ...i was sad.
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Grey's was the first of a two-part episode. Surprising they decided to start a two parter on Thanksgiving.
 
8x02 "A La Cart"

9h

(CBS) CSI 12.33M (repeat)
(ABC) Grey's Anatomy 8.96M (repeat)
(FOX) Don’t Forget the Lyrics 8.60M (jeux)
(NBC 9h00) The Office 5.98M (repeat)
(NBC 9h30) Scrubs 5.91M
(CW) Supernatural 1.84M (repeat)
 
Another Sara-free CSI, another round of crap ratings. These are the lowest ratings that CSI has had this season, apart from the holiday episode which had that as a built-in excuse.

Thursday 9 p.m.
CSI (CBS)
Viewers: 18.66 million (#1), A18-49: 5.5/14 (#2)

Grey’s Anatomy (ABC)
Viewers: 17.64 million (#2), A18-49: 7.1/18 (#1)

He sure won't have that money for a raise now.

CSI Season 8
Episode 1: 25.22 million viewers
Episode 2: 20.97 million viewers - 16.8% drop
Episode 3: 19.794 million viewers - 5.6% drop
Episode 4: 21.22 million viewers - 6.7% gain
Episode 5: 19.06 million viewers - 10.2% drop
Episode 6: 21.943 million viewers - 13.1% gain
Episode 7: 21.37 million viewers - 2.6% loss
Episode 8: 14.749 million viewers - 31% loss
Episode 9: 18.66 million viewers - 20.9% gain

average drop: 3.18%
average viewers: 20.33

Grey's Anatomy Season 4
Episode 1: 20.93 million viewers
Episode 2: 18.51 million viewers - 11.6% drop
Episode 3: 19.036 million viewers - 2.9% gain
Episode 4: 18.04 million viewers - 5.2% drop
Episode 5: 18.175 million viewers - 0.7% gain
Episode 6: 19.31 million viewers - 5.9% gain
Episode 7: 19.501 million viewers - 0.98% gain
Epiosde 8: 19.60 million viewers - 0.5% gain
Episode 9: 14.111 million viewers - 29% drop
Episode 10: 17.64 million viewers - 20% gain

average drop: 1.54%
average viewers: 18.54 million viewers

CSI 8 vs. Grey's 4
Episode 1: CSI beats Grey's by 17%
Episode 2: CSI beats Grey's by 11.7%
Episode 3: CSI beats Grey's by 3.8%
Episode 4: CSI beats Grey's by 15%
Episode 5: CSI beats Grey's by 4.6%
Episode 6: CSI beats Grey's by 11.1%
Episode 7: CSI beats Grey's by 8.7%
Episode 8: Grey's beats CSI by 24.7%
Episode 9: CSI beats Grey's by 24.4%

average win: CSI with 7.95%

CSI 8 vs. CSI 7

Episode 1: 25.22 - 10.5% gain
Episode 2: 20.97 - 11.8% drop
Episode 3: 19.794 - 7.9% drop
Episode 4: 21.22 - 1.7% drop
Episode 5: 19.06 - 6.9% drop
Episode 6: 21.943 - 6.4% gain
Episode 7: 21.37 - 2.5% gain
Episode 8: 14.749 - 38.8% drop
Episode 9: 18.66 - 8% gain

average drop: 4.43%

Grey's 4 vs. Grey's 3

Episode 1: 20.48 - 19.4% drop
Episode 2: 18.51 - 21.2% drop
Episode 3: 19.036 - 16.5% drop
Episode 4: 18.04 - 17.7% drop
Episode 5: 18.175 - 13.3% drop
Episode 6: 19.31 - 8.2% drop
Episode 7: 19.501 - 5.6% drop
Episode 8: 19.6 - 6.3% drop
Episode 9: 14.111 - 23.8% drop
Episode 10: 17.64 - 26.5% drop

average drop: 15.85%

CSI Season 7 vs. Itself
Season 7 Premiere: 22.58
Episode 2: 23.77 - 5% gain from week before
Episode 3: 21.51 - 9.5% drop
Episode 4: 21.58 - 0.3% gain
Episode 5: 20.49 - 5% drop
Episode 6: 20.53 - 0.2% gain
Episode 7: 20.83 - 1.5% gain
Episode 8: 24.11 - 13.6% gain
Episode 9: 17.171 - 28.8% drop
Episode 10: 23.253 - 26.2% gain
Episode 11: 26.116 - 11% gain
Episode 12: 21.41 - 18% drop
Episode 13: 21.172 - 1.1% drop
Episode 14: 21.494 - 1.5% gain
Episode 15: 22.522 - 4.6% gain
Episode 16: 22.707 - 0.8% gain
Episode 17: 21.780 - 4.1% drop
Episode 18: 22.713 - 4.1% gain
Episode 19: 21.689 - 4.5% drop
Episode 20: 22.181 - 2.2% gain
Episode 21: 20.202 - 8.9% drop
Episode 22: 19.025 - 5.8% drop
Episode 23: 18.751 -1.4% drop
Episode 24: 20.447 - 8.3% gain

Average: 21.6 million viewers

Average drop: 0.343%

Grey's Season 3 vs. Itself

Premiere: 25.4 million viewers
Episode 2: 23.5 million viewers - 7.5% drop from week before
Episode 3: 22.8 million viewers - 3% drop
Episode 4: 21.93 million viewers - 4% drop
Episode 5: 20.96 million viewers - 4.5% drop
Episode 6: 21.03 million viewers - 0.3% gain
Episode 7: 20.65 million viewers - 1.8% drop
Episode 8: 20.92 million viewers - 1.3% gain
Episode 9: 18.509 million viewers - 11.5% drop
Episode 10: 24.01 million viewers - 22.9% gain
Episode 11: 23.032 million viewers - 4.1% drop
Episode 12: 21.942 million viewers - 4.7% drop
Episode 13: 21.504 million viewers - 2.0% drop
Episode 14: 24.18 million viewers - 11.1% gain
Episode 15: 25.197 million viewers - 4% gain
Episode 16: 25.759 million viewers - 2.2% gain
Episode 17: 27.394 million viewers - 6% gain
Episode 18: 22.677 million viewers - 17.2% drop
Episode 19: 22.304 million viewers - 1.6% drop
Episode 20: 21.125 million viewers - 5.3% drop
Episode 21: 20.058 million viewers - 5% drop
Episode 22: 21.228 million viewers - 5.5% gain
Episode 23: 19.581 million viewers - 7.8% drop
Episode 24: 22.572 million viewers - 13.2% gain

Average: 22.4 million viewers

Average drop: 0.61%
 
Wow, this was my favorite of the season. I'm thinking its the writing strike, I've heard a lot of people thinking that there are no episodes because of the strike. But idk.
 
I was underwhelmed with both episodes of CSI and GA but I liked CSI's episode better, so its good to know CSI won in viewership.

The ratings are plummeting already for both primetime and late night shows because of the writer's strike and experts expect a 20%-ish decline in the ratings (of primetime TV shows) if the writer's strike drags on.
 
So the number of viewers isn't necessarily going down because of Sara's leaving? Good.

Why would the numbers drop, though, because of the strike? To support the writers?
 
I think part of the reason is the fact that they are missing episodes, and putting in re-runs. Doesn't really help with the consistency of the show. Some people may kinda fall outta the groove of watching a series!
 
I don't really think the ratings drop is because Sara is gone...this season has been up and down even when she was on the show. It is the holiday season, and people get busy doing other things instead of watching TV. It seems a lot of shows are experiencing lower ratings...heck grey's anatomy still came in lower than CSI.
 
Thank's sarahvma I wondered if the ratings would plummet, when she left, and although some fans don't think that's the reason, she's very popular, and with her gone, some have lost interest :( I've been talking to customers and they've fizzled out, and don't want to watch it with her gone, and if WP leaves bye-bye CSI :(
 
If the ratings are in decline because of Sara leaving, then why is Grey's ratings lower then usual.

I think it's the Strike.
 
its highly presumptive to say the ratings drop is because of sara. ratings for all shows are way down and it all got started last year. its more complicated than just one character leaving. there are probably as many csi fans that are glad she is gone or dont care as there are those who may be inclined to tune out without sara.
 
I didn't say my opinion was the be-all, end-all. It's just my opinion.

Last year, the first episode in December (Loco Motives, Episode 10) got over 23 million viewers. So it's hard to blame it on the time of year.

The writer's strike? Maybe, but wouldn't people at least check to see if it's a new episode? It seems odd that people would go, "Oh, writer's strike - I'm going to completely not turn on my TV for a few months."

From their last non-holiday episode (episode eight), GA dropped 10%. CSI dropped 13%.

From their premieres, Grey's is down 15.7%. CSI is down 26%. So for GA to be at 17 is not nearly as significant as CSI being at 18.
 
myfuturecsi said:
If the ratings are in decline because of Sara leaving, then why is Grey's ratings lower then usual.

I think it's the Strike.
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yep, plus the fact that there has been a week without a new episode in the middle of it, that dosen't help either.

I liked Sara a lot, and didn't want Jorja Fox to leave. But tbh, now that she has gone, I can't really say I'm pining for her as much as I did like her.

I really don't think she had that much of a hold on the show, on some sure, but not on a huge chunk of the audience. Certainly not the same sort of hold the lead characters do. And here leaving dosen't explain other shows suffering at this time. Which kinda makes it a moot point.

Funny thing is, along with the crossover, the other best and most unique episodes so far this season have been the last 2, imo. So people are missing out ;)
 
CSI Season 8
Episode 1: 25.22 million viewers
Episode 2: 20.97 million viewers - 16.8% drop
Episode 3: 19.794 million viewers - 5.6% drop
Episode 4: 21.22 million viewers - 6.7% gain
Episode 5: 19.06 million viewers - 10.2% drop
Episode 6: 21.943 million viewers - 13.1% gain
Episode 7: 21.37 million viewers - 2.6% loss
Episode 8: 14.749 million viewers - 31% loss
Episode 9: 18.66 million viewers - 20.9% gain
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I would say CSI's number just haven't really been all that high this season except for the premiere which was the end of a continuation. If the show was constantly hitting the mid 20s or right below it, and then came in with 18.66 million viewers....I'd say Sara had an impact. But, I don't think JF leaving caused the ratings to plummet. Last year we also weren't dealing with a strike as we are this year. JF's absence has not stirred me away from CSI...and it never will. Plus, I've heard a lot of people who are not bothered that she left.

Besides that...if you take a look at Grey's numbers it seems to be doing the same thing. I realize that CSI has taken a big drop since the premiere this season, but that was also a continuation which always brings in high numbers. So I think it's pretty much the same with every show.
 
the fact that grays and other shows have been lower than normal as well, indicates something else is going on with the ratings...

I am sure some have stopped watching because of sara leaving, but i doubt there are that many. Really, its the relative position thats important.
 
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