Grade 'Point of No Return'

How would you grade Point of No Return?

  • A+

    Votes: 19 30.2%
  • A

    Votes: 16 25.4%
  • A-

    Votes: 10 15.9%
  • B+

    Votes: 8 12.7%
  • B

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • B-

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • C+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D-

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • F

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    63
OK. Well. Late again to reviewing, but what can ya do. Been an absolute :censored: of a week. I suppose should preface the whole review with that anyways. I watched this ep on a dinner break and running on about ninety minutes of sleep. I'm sure that coloured a few things... :lol:

I did immediately get the feeling that Mac's line was gonna be a thruline for the ep. "...a man who's hit bottom is capable of anything..." Just didn't know it would be Pino who had bottomed out at that point. I thought it was a very good ep for Sheldon, and also for Sid. I think the real star of the ep was Jonah Lotan (Marty Pino), and that if it had been any other random perp character doing such things it would not have been nearly as compelling.

It was a hugely dense eppie. Felt like a lot of the Greek stuff was simply to explain the season and push to Melina's upcoming ep, and that everything outside the Pino story was kinda splintered. I thought it was a good ep for interaction between the boys, and also between Stella and Angell. I thought the best of the ep centred around Pino. I think it brought out some great moments for all the characters. It was interesting that they had Sheldon onside with Marty, and Sid really being closer to Anabel, and recounting things primarily with her in mind. Flack really handled the interrogation of Pino gently, and it led to a good scene between Flack and Sheldon after the interruption. Sid was excellent throughout.

There was lots of ubertechie slickness. Overt, but useful and not too distracting anyways. Led us this to this week's peculiar link, and initial plot twist ...Mad Cow Narcotics? How very curious. As for making heroin by reconsituting it from drug user organ harvesting, well now but that's mighty labour intensive, isn't it? Not to mention more than a tich gruesome.

Sidestepping to the Greek storyline for a bit. Oh Dastardly deedage. :rolleyes: Those parts of the ep felt like they musta been written at the same time as the Indiana Jones segment of the ep earlier this season. There's no other way to explain the tone of it and the casual and inexplicable choices made.

Indy and Hollywoodesque for Stella meeting an old archeology professor. For Angell's line "...if this is a set up, I'll kill you." For taking a potentially interesting docklands locale and turning it into eyerolling exasperation and disappointment. For a cheesy reveal of Stella inna box. For a portable lie detector/heart rate monitor interrogation scene. For stuffing a member of a foreign consulate into a shipping container. What, is the Cypriot government so shortstaffed a boat is the most expedient way to travel? The State Dept. can't be arsed to fill out extradiction paperwork? No one else has mentioned this, but I also wanna know who Angell was talking to on the walkie talkie as they left, telling them "okay, 's 'all yours...". Was that the Cypriot official? Moonlighting as a longshoreman? :lol: Interesting also because it seemed to imply it wasn't just the two of them acting on their own, but that at least one or more knew at least a little hint of something they were doing and cooperated if nothing else.

I admit, the dead Greek guy, I thought was gonna be the professor, and they'd be chasing Diakos to Greece. We're now left with anonymous bad guys after a season's worth of Stella chasing Diakos. I also totally think Mac suspects something, might even know something of Stella's activities. In that final scene it felt like he was edging on baiting her to see if she'd talk to him or not. The writing for the Greek stuff this week was odd and took me out of the show. I thought the behaviour was OOC for Stella in the extremes it took. But I guess that's what that little comment earlier in the season was supposed to allude to, about being willing to break the rules. And Mac calling this case Stella's White Whale. Did I think Melina acted it well? Yes. Which is why there was such a perplexing dichotomy between the believability of the portrayal and the behaviour that seems incongruous with the character as we'd known her. Stella and Angell are fun to watch together, but I hope the writing tightens up. I hope they get more scenes together. I hope Angell stays on the show. I hope that was the last of overly hollywood moments and that Melina's ep suffers less for that sort of thing.

Mind you, we're all picking on the shipping container as being unbelievable in the face of a former city employee with gambling problems turned mass serial who harvests organs of drug addicts and refines them in such a way as to reclaim their drugs of choice (and how does he know which they're on and how to separate them) in a gory rental box of his own in Queens...? :lol:

Back into the NY realm. A lot of Meh moments.

Lindsay. Dear writers. Please feel free not to mention Lindsay amusing herself with her beaver. (Interesting as it is to think she too considers it a crime scene... Sorry. Sorry. Still wrung out). The 'cuteness' inserted was a completely unnecessary moment. Sometimes outta sight/outta mind really is a better way to go. The second mention of Lindsay via the phone call with Danny was better and at least contributed something to the show. And why is Mac the only one asking after her or talking to Danny at all?

Meh Stunt Casting. Dear writers. Please leave off with da hype. If the guests are good we'll remember them. If they're anonymous we won't. Flogging them to promote an ep usually instills a deep sense of foreboding, and not in a good way. Cameos can be fun, but doing up the promos to highlight these two was stupid when they had so little to do with the story itself. I was relieved they were so uninvolved. Stunt promos are nearly as annoying as stunt casting. Willya just freakin leave it alone.

Meh Messer. Forgetting his vest? Who forgets their vest? and btw, y'all keep leaving your car doors open. Or is that what happened? Stopped for coffee and left it open, they ignored all the gear and the car itself and took only Messer's vest? Meh Danny's magic shot. Meh, ring, blood. This is really the kinda pithy scene we're gonna get from Danny from here on out?

Meh an extended death bed confession. Little Stevie coulda just left it at "...was just business..." and left the CSI's to dig a little more figure out what that meant.

Was interesting reading the reviews. Everyone seemed to really love this one and find it exciting. I kept thinking I reaaally need more sleep. For me the ep only really shone when it focused on Pino and the great ongoing reveal of discovering just how far he'd sunk and what he'd become capable of. I thought the last scene was very well done, though god knows how Sid heard where the raid was gonna be in Queens. The ep wouldn't have been nearly as good without a standout performance from Jonah Lotan, and kudos to the writers for thinking of it, and for the material that bringing him back provided for all the rest of the characters, particularly the oft underused Sid and Hawkes. :)

B.

Was anyone else waiting for Danny to knock his wedding ring down the drain and spend several fruitless, frantic hours trying to get it back?
I was waiting for the writers to not bombard us with reminders that he recently got married.

> Lindsay's taping off roadkill! Danny misses her! He's worried after her and the baby and parenthood! So much so he just took a service pistol into a firefight with a semi-automatic w/o a vest, hit the baddie, in the neck, with a not-instantly fatal magic bullet shot, elicited a death bed monologue with his hand clamped to the bleeder, tried to scrub the blood off the once-pristine ring and finally hadda take it off before answering a phone call from his beloved, and lying to her about the whole deal.

While a certain amount of this kind of material is grudgingly understandable, or at least predictable, with the marriage and baby this season, can we please have some interesting Danny moments that mebbe stem from something, anything else? At all? Can we have some material for each of them that's not somehow tied to the other?

...*sigh* never mind. :rolleyes:
 
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^ I get what you're saying. But now that TPTB has tied the knot between Danny and Lindsay, I'm afraid that they'll always be involved with each other. Unless, of course, the finale turns out the way we're hoping for. Let's cross our fingers. :D
 
This episode had some powerful preformances(especially from Robert Joy) and it was very exciting to watch. However, I think it's safe to say this episode suffered from a great deal of Fridge Logic.

Fridge Logic is where you're not questioning the plot while you're watching it, but then when you get up to go to the fridge for a snack, you start finding the plot holes...

First up, the whole reason Marty was getting drugs out of organs was to make money to pay off his gambling debts, right? Wouldn't it have made more sense to rob a bank, or some rich people? Or get street drugs in some other far less messy way?

Of course, the whole organ thing was morrbid, ghoulish, and shocking, which is what the writers were going for, and you have to admit it gets a person's attention. And without it we might not have had Sid's powerful scene at the warehouse. Speaking of which...

How in the heck did Sid get there? Did he ride in with everyone else and was told to stay in the car? Then, just as Danny had done earlier, he runs inside without a vest? But like I said, Robert Joy's delivery in that scene was awesome, so that's why it stays.

This whole Stella Greek coin business kinda feels more like a CSI:Miami thing. I think I could see Horatio tricking a bad guy into a storage crate.

Seriously, though. Maybe it looked good on paper but in practice it's kinda out there.
 
Fay, thanks for clarifying the language. I do have a hard time with the differences in terms, yet I work with people from several different countries (we jokingly pick on each other sometimes - all in fun and friendship, of course!)

I suddenly realized who Marty is. It took me a while to have that AHA! moment, but I had it. I know, call me late.....
 
Very late review here…I missed parts of the episode on Wednesday and decided to wait until I could rewatch to make comments.

Overall, I thought this was an above average episode, so gave it a grade of B.

There was a nice blend of action, drama, character work, and continuity, which held my interest to the end. And I give the writers credit for managing to surprise me a few times.

I fully expected to see the typical story of a character fallen on hard times who is redeemed at the end, but they took a totally different route by giving Pino a tragic and depressing end.

The scene with Pino’s capture was particularly well done – the intensity and uncertainty of the standoff really came through in the acting, writing, camera work, etc. It was interesting to see how the various characters reacted to the situation, and I thought Robert Joy in particular did a great job of showing all the disappointment and disgust Sid felt for Pino at the end.

That said, I have to subtract some points for the amount of overkill in the storyline. I think they could’ve written an equally tragic story for Pino without resorting to such a gruesome scenario. And I have a hard time in general seeing how someone who seemed as engaging and smart as Pino (in his earlier appearances) reached the conclusion that making heroin from human body parts (and even killing people to do so) was the optimum way to cover gambling debts. I also agree that the horrid lab seemed like it was included just for the shock factor. How could anyone, especially a former M.E., stand to work in a place like that? Wouldn’t the odors and smells have led to its discovery much earlier?

As for Danny’s chase of the suspect sans vest, I guess I can see both sides. He heard multiple shots and saw the guy fleeing the scene so his instinct was to pursue. For all he knew the guy could’ve shot Flack and/or Mac, so I guess his first thought would’ve been to not let the suspect out of his sight. On the other hand (and given his experience with the Minhaus shooting), I wonder why he didn’t first go back into the building to check that Flack and Mac were ok and didn’t need medical attention.

The scene in the bathroom also was well done. I didn’t think too deeply about the blood on the ring – I mainly saw it as recognition that Danny has more than himself to worry about now and his impulsivity could impact Lindsay and their child as well. My thought was that he probably didn’t say anything to Lindsay because he didn’t want to worry her and also because he probably hadn’t fully worked through his own feelings. I think the incident was a big reality check for Danny, but it remains to be seen whether it serves as added incentive for him to change or simply furthers his self-doubt about whether he can be a good husband and father.

As for the Greek coin storyline, I have mixed feelings. The arc started out strongly, and I enjoy seeing Stella and Angell working together, but it seems like the story has sort of lost its way. While I can see Stella and Angell trying to find a way to perhaps extradite Kolovos “unofficially,” the method chosen (locking him in a shipping container for an ocean journey) just seems reckless and foolish. And although killing off Diakos introduced a momentary element of surprise, I fear the writers may’ve robbed this storyline of some momentum and focus since now it seems we will need to adjust to a new set of suspects who previously haven’t been seen (unless Stella’s professor friend is now a suspect as well).

For me, the main problem with this storyline is that the writers haven’t done a very good job of exploring Stella’s motivations for so single mindedly pursuing this case and putting her personal and professional life in jeopardy. Why is Diakos Stella’s “Moby Dick?” Yes, he attacked her, but so have others in the recent past, most notably that guy Colin in the “Help” episode this season. Without a strong motivation, Stella’s actions (and Angell’s to some degree) seem irrational and plain foolhardy. If Diakos were continually stalking and/or taunting Stella, I guess it would make more sense to me. And now that Diakos is dead, why isn’t Stella’s obsession over and why doesn’t she tell Mac the truth? It’s obvious that he will find out as soon as Major Cases follows up on Kolovos’ whereabouts and discovers that she and Angell made arrangements to have him shipped to Cyprus for arrest.

I know some of this drama is being set up for the inevitable showdown when Mac finds out the truth, and I admit I’m looking forward to how that plays out. Hopefully, the writers will come up with some good scenes between the Mac and Stella, which give more insight to their history and the dynamics of their relationship. That’s really the element of the storyline I’m most interested in now that Diakos is out of the picture.
 
It did cross my mind that Stella's Professor friend could end up being involved in this, but hopefully he won't be another person to let her down.
 
fm62 said:
It did cross my mind that Stella's Professor friend could end up being involved in this, but hopefully he won't be another person to let her down.

^^ You can bet on it... his involvement that is.
 
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i have to admit pete and ashley kinda impressed me i thought their acting was going to be way over the top and awful but it wasnt that bad. glad lindsay wasnt there the show seemed much better without her. liked the flack/angell i like stella but ive never warmed to the greek storyline. its understandable to break some rules sometimes but i think she is just being reckless for the sake of it and dragging angell down with her.
 
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