Since I love my very old car that is amazingly still up and running I was wondering about how people here are thinking about driving, owning a car, learning how to do it... I live in the Netherlands and here youhave to be 18 before you can start to learn how to drive. I was excited. Since learning to drive aint cheap... 5 years agp the average for passing an exam was after 30 lessons and the were 32 euro's each (in that periode euro=dollar) So that is about 960 bucks then ofcourse the exam... I failed once since I'm a nervous prick when someone yells test... those tests were 180 each and then 30 bucks or so for the piece of paper itself I thought which makes a total of 1350 bucks.. Then having my license hoera... with a 1.49 euro these days for a liter makes it even better.. US citizens pay about 1/3 of this price... So after all a expensive thing but I can;t say I dislike driving. ----- eta: I totally forgot the costs for the theortical exam.. Have no idea what those costed me though ------ Do it as much as I can and I am making my very old car look good. It was totally worn down and now it is in excellent state. It is a Suzuki Swift (1992)... I have seen accidents like two highly flamable trucks that both didn;t handle a nasty turn to flats on the free way and such. I have had a flat on the freeway and landed 2 inches from the rail besides it Don;t ask how and such it went to fast... I must have crossed about 3 lanes in between time... Didn;t hit another car.. just left a nice piece of even more black on the black top. I prefer stick shift over an automatic even though my car is an automatic but the car was for free and I am living an a student budget and after getting my license all my money was gone! :lol: stick shift is much more real experience of driving... it just makes it more fun even though it is about the insight when driving during rush hour.. Thrill: Driving 165 km/h (100 m/h) on a 100 km/h (60 m/h) zone freeway and get passed by a police car! I'm so relieved that I wasn't pulled over! You don’t wanna know! Especially driving around with 2 swords, an iron chain and nunchakus in the trunk of the car. (Kung Fu practise) For the ones that want to know. I usually don't drive over the speed limit for 20-30 km/h (12-18 m/h). So I can afford my own speeding ticket and that I do not lose my license or worse... Got a ticket recently too for speeding... 130 bucks (100 us dollars) I only went about 16 km/10miles to fast or so... :lol: so what do you think about driving... what do you drive and what are your experiences on the black top?