Re: Criminal Minds "The Spin-off"
HnStetlerfan, No, I didn't misunderstand I was referencing those who were speculated to be aiming for the role, I don't care for Rob Lowe and it could be he hinted just for the fact that he isn't going to be on the other show B&S.
I doubt he is really in it, CBS is saying no he isn't, ABC isn't sure what that rumor is all about, and its someone in Lowes camp that hinted at it. So unless he became and African American, or British I doubt he will be apart of it.
GNRF, before CM (orginial) I couldn't have told you who AJ, Paget, MGG, or Kirsten Vangness were lol. I knew
OF Shemar from his days on Y&R soap, but I only seen that when I was sick or had nothing better to do lol. So what I am saying is that who is unknown to us, maybe well known to others.
I actually like seeing an actor/actress who doesn't have alot of star power put into a lead type role, you either make it or your chops are cooked. :lol:
Another thing to consider, to the 3 females, 4 males on the orginial vs the three males vs one female, they could add to it after the pilot is done.
Look at NCIS LA Louise Lombard was in charge in the pilot but when it premiered in the network lineup she was gone and CO's (Callen) was suddenly in charge, (okay Hetty is unofficially lol).
Just for the record until I saw him I didn't really know who LL or Chris were either lol (Again knew about them, heard of them, but meh), nor anyone but Mark Harmon of NCIS.
I think they give the pilot idea, let it fly and then when done they turn around and fix it. Maybe Beau Garrett will work, maybe Forrest won't or vice versa, or they all could suck royally, and a whole new cast brought in, I think this is just another reason shows like to take spin-offs and cross them over to start, get a feel for the characters before seeing them out on their own. But again that also isn't fair to the spin-off, while it works in some instances, the orginials had to start out on their own.
Can't really use NCIS LA as an example, they are a spin off of NCIS, but NCIS is a spin-off of JAG, When Jag was nearing its end Mark Harmon came in, and NCIS was created next during Jags run. Now I am not saying that NCIS is over or near it but it is at season 7 and (I personally) don't know where the stars are on their contracts. They may have figured NCIS LA could go until season 3 (putting NCIS at 10 seasons) to take over the frachise.
I don't use CSI's as an example only because they released them to the point of sort of overshadowing each other, and while one brings in the audience from another, the shows got off on a bad footing by arguing too much about it. I didn't hear about the NCIS camp complaining about LA, only a couple made a mention from Criminal minds. Go one step further, L&O the orginial, spun off SVU, CI, TBJ, etc etc etc only the first three survived the rest didn't survive, past season two, and CI is holding by a thread because NBC messed with them and the cast kept switching. But another case of no one complaining about it. CSI might have had a right but at one point it did get out of hand (almost like a war) and this is why I don't like using them as an example of spin-off's unless I have to.
Which is why with Criminal minds (going back on topic sorta) in season five I can understand the wonder they are good in their ratings, and all that, but again where are the actors in their contracts as well. But apparently the powers that be want to establish something, not so much about ratings or contract but a safety net, thing about it, if the orginial did go they can cross the orginial actors over, or guest appearances.
As to Spin-off's in general I have to agree to something Chris O, and LL said during an interview (which I can find if you all want to see that but I will post it in the proper thread) and that is the hope that viewers of the orginial would like their show, and if they happen to bring in viewers who might not before (and didn't bother with later) seen the orginial then all is good. That btw wasn't a direct quote lol.
So while I was directing it at both of you I was also just reporting what was being said, I don't like too much bad rumors, but I figured that was who you were referring to [Lowe] where as others might be :wtf: huh.
But also speaking in general as well. Hopefully this clears up any confusion I might have made.