"Cello and Goodbye" discussion **Spoilers**
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jafox
CSI Level Two
I thought he was awesome. I would love to see him come on as a regular. He's been in several films, including Titanic.
byline
CSI Level One
Yup, exactly. Seems to me he said she was one of his cousin's daughters. So that would make them related; not sure of the actual term. Second or third cousins, cousins twice-removed or some such thing?The thing I'm wondering about is the prior relationship of Tina and Nate, because didn't Thorpe indicate a family relationship to Tina when Nick & Greg questioned him and showed him her picture? I guess I need to re-watch that part, but I came away with the assumption that Thorpe and Tina were related, and that's why Nate chose the farmhouse.
I was surprised the actor who played Nate's father didn't get more screen time than he did. He's a pretty recognizable actor.
Yup, exactly. Seems to me he said she was one of his cousin's daughters. So that would make them related; not sure of the actual term. Second or third cousins, cousins twice-removed or some such thing?The thing I'm wondering about is the prior relationship of Tina and Nate, because didn't Thorpe indicate a family relationship to Tina when Nick & Greg questioned him and showed him her picture? I guess I need to re-watch that part, but I came away with the assumption that Thorpe and Tina were related, and that's why Nate chose the farmhouse.
I was surprised the actor who played Nate's father didn't get more screen time than he did. He's a pretty recognizable actor.
I think there might be flashbacks next episode to Nate's childhood, so he might be back unless they get a younger actor or something.
Ladybronco
Pathologist
Yup, exactly. Seems to me he said she was one of his cousin's daughters. So that would make them related; not sure of the actual term. Second or third cousins, cousins twice-removed or some such thing?The thing I'm wondering about is the prior relationship of Tina and Nate, because didn't Thorpe indicate a family relationship to Tina when Nick & Greg questioned him and showed him her picture? I guess I need to re-watch that part, but I came away with the assumption that Thorpe and Tina were related, and that's why Nate chose the farmhouse.
I was surprised the actor who played Nate's father didn't get more screen time than he did. He's a pretty recognizable actor.
I think there might be flashbacks next episode to Nate's childhood, so he might be back unless they get a younger actor or something.
Yes, he's listed in next weeks credits, so we'll see him again. Now that they've started this familial relationship, it would be silly to not show Arvin and backfill the story for us.
My son and I were recently discussing just exactly how Nate & Tina were related, I'm not sure they have a usable term that take you back past twice-removed. Kinda rules out a *Bride* relationship now, doesn't it :lol::lol:
Somehow I don't see Greg being a tattletale and running to Ecklie about Ray being in the lab when he's not supposed to. Actually, that's more Hodges' M.O. but he's come to admire Ray so he's not gonna rat him out either. Ecklie is in charge of the lab when both of the grave shift supervisors are absent, not the next in seniority (besides, in "Field Mice", Catherine did tell Henry that nobody likes a tattletale.) And since Catherine and Nick report to Ecklie, isn't it within the realm of possibility that he knew exactly what's going on?
The Haskell thing has been a nightmare for LVPD since day one. You would think that they would be glad that Ray offs Haskell, but they'll still have to process the aftermath "by the book". No one's getting fired or leaving because of this, at least not directly. Ray may have to serve a suspension, of course, but then the nightmare will be over and it'll be business as usual.
Well you all have basically covered all the pros and cons of the episode...so I shall not repeat them all again. But I will say that I was more intrigued then I thought I'd be. For a milestone episode...being the 250th, I was really happy to see more of the team and everyone's involvement, unlike Mascara..the 200th.
Rizzoli
Lab Technician
I was a little upset Brass & Super-dave weren't in this one, especially Super-dave considering its his first milestone episode as a main cast member
Oh yes, because reporting an employee who is acting against orders, possibly jeopardizing the case, is being a "tattletale". And you're really comparing the events of "Field Mice" to this?
And Ecklie is in charge of the lab regardless of where the supervisors are. But that's moot, as I wasn't referring to that. I was talking about Ray's comment toward Greg, who holds seniority over him and is a more advanced CSI, and Greg's obligation in that standing to make sure that the case isn't jeopardized. Which was exactly what Ray was doing. Were this real life any evidence handled by Ray would be severely questioned or even thrown out due to his personal link to the case.
But you're right. This is only TV and apparently the fear of being labeled a tattletale is the highest concern for the employees of a police crime lab.
Exactly what I was thinking... but the CSI shows have a bad habit of the investigators working a case in which they have personal links. All three shows have done this at one time or another.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. If you suspend believability about the team having to go to LA, it was pretty good. When Sosa said something about it would be his fault for "letting the Haskell experts go back to Vegas" I though, ah...that's why they are there...they are the Haskell experts.
I totally got lost on the whole Thorpe family backstory thing. Maybe I'll watch again...maybe not. But I found it funny...someone here said last week that they should have investigated the creepy farmer more. :lol: They were right!
Nick...I think he knew just finding Ray was not going to cut it...that Ray wouldn't give it up no matter what so he might as well help him and at least be there to hopefully keep things from going down badly. He should have told Catherine tho. But man...he already told Ray once that if he didn't want to be found he had to ditch his cell phone (The Lost Girls?). :lol:
LOVED Hodges! :lol: He was great...that scene with him and Greg. But I thought it was weird to have the Vegas lab processing LA video footage. I didn't like how they all (Nick, Greg, Hodges mostly) helped Ray in his quest. There was no reason. He is not vital to getting Haskell.
Brody...Morgan...whatever...which is her first name?? :lol: She was okay. As someone said...reminded me of Calleigh, but it might have been the bright lights and white lab coats. I wondered about SID too, but then I saw it spelled out on the sign at the lab. Anyway, I think she'd fit in fine in Vegas, but I'd love to see Sosa too (or a new character who is like him).
I totally got lost on the whole Thorpe family backstory thing. Maybe I'll watch again...maybe not. But I found it funny...someone here said last week that they should have investigated the creepy farmer more. :lol: They were right!
Nick...I think he knew just finding Ray was not going to cut it...that Ray wouldn't give it up no matter what so he might as well help him and at least be there to hopefully keep things from going down badly. He should have told Catherine tho. But man...he already told Ray once that if he didn't want to be found he had to ditch his cell phone (The Lost Girls?). :lol:
LOVED Hodges! :lol: He was great...that scene with him and Greg. But I thought it was weird to have the Vegas lab processing LA video footage. I didn't like how they all (Nick, Greg, Hodges mostly) helped Ray in his quest. There was no reason. He is not vital to getting Haskell.
Brody...Morgan...whatever...which is her first name?? :lol: She was okay. As someone said...reminded me of Calleigh, but it might have been the bright lights and white lab coats.
I wondered about SID too, but then I saw it spelled out on the sign at the lab. Anyway, I think she'd fit in fine in Vegas, but I'd love to see Sosa too (or a new character who is like him).See, that's just the thing. This ISN'T real life. It's fiction. It's a made up story. Sure, it's based on real stuff, but they take a lot of dramatic license in writing these things. It's supposed to be entertaining. If you want true to life, watch one of those forensic files shows with their cheesy re-enactments.
Ray is in a dark place right now and probably is not in the mood to ask nicely like you suggest. Under any other circumstance, he might be. He saw Greg's hesitation and he took advantage of it. Though I'm sure if Ray did ask nicely, all the haters would find something else to bitch about.
I agree that he's in a dark place right now and is not thinking clearly which is why I don't blame him that much for his actions. If the person you love more than life itself gets kidnapped by a crazy psycho serial killer, you tend to get cranky lol.
I like Ray, but I do not agree with some of the things he's done. Its the same for pretty much every character. I don't think there's a character yet that hasn't made me wanna smack them at one time or another LOL... well, except maybe Archie and SuperDave and Bobby! lol.
I like Ray, but I do not agree with some of the things he's done. Its the same for pretty much every character. I don't think there's a character yet that hasn't made me wanna smack them at one time or another LOL... well, except maybe Archie and SuperDave and Bobby! lol.