"Cello and Goodbye" discussion **Spoilers**

[hiphugger17]

- Nick did NOT act like a professional assistant supervisor in this one. He's supposed to be setting an example and yet he's bending the lines just like Ray. The appropriate thing would have been for him to contact Catherine and update her, but unfortunately he disregarded that protocol. Which leads me to believe he is not yet ready for taking over Catherine's position should she leave the lab.

Catherine has bended the lines many times as supervisor and Nick is more than ready to take over for her.

Honestly I don't really think Catherine expected any more from Nick than what he did except for calling backup once he actually saw Haskell which we assume (since we didn't see it) that he didn't do. I think Catherine knows her people good enough to know that Nick would find Langston, and she hoped that he would be able to remind him that he was part of a team, like he did in Doctor Who. But there was really no way to get him to go back to Vegas before he was ready to go (unless you wanted LAPD to send him back in handcuffs and it didn't exactly look like LAPD was even looking for him! Heck, It didn't really even look like LAPD was even actively looking for Haskell? ).

GregNickRyanFan
As for Nick's actions, he was worried about Ray going over the line like Warrick did, which got Warrick killed. He didn't want history to repeat itself. He was thinking on his feet, quickly, etc. I doubt that he purposely neglected to call Catherine. He was just acting quickly to keep Ray from getting himself killed.

I do think she expected him to call her and tell her he had found Ray. That he was thinking quick on his feet and about helping Ray doesn't exempt him of his duty as an officer and his responsability to his superior. If he was worried about Ray going over the line and thinking about Warrick then all he had to do was stay with him and he could've even helped him out like he ended up doing, BUT he should've told Catherine he had found Ray. He should've also alerted someone they were about to meet Haskell.

 

[Smokey]

Nick was right when he said to Ray that Haskell was trying to isolate him...get him away from the team and get him acting on his own and not thinking right. Nick wasn't going to let that happen.

Sure, he should have told Catherine what was up, but honestly just "sending Ray back to Vegas" wasn't much help either. She had to know he wasn't going to just go home and sit on his hands not doing anything. She had given him enough chances (in this case AND the Jekyll case where he went off on his own) and seen that he was not going to follow her orders, but now he's in Vegas with Gloria being held at gunpoint by Haskell.

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

 

[Ipstenu]

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

Realistic answer: Drove.

CSI answer: Killed a helicopter pilot and flew. OR it wasn't really Haskell in L.A. - It was another bride, plastic surgeried to look like Haskell. Ahh hah hahhahhah!

 

[Smokey]

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

Realistic answer: Drove.

CSI answer: Killed a helicopter pilot and flew. OR it wasn't really Haskell in L.A. - It was another bride, plastic surgeried to look like Haskell. Ahh hah hahhahhah!

:lol: I'm just thinking...he sure seems to magically get from Vegas to LA to Vegas on a whim, doesn't he?

 

[PrincessJ88]

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

Realistic answer: Drove.

CSI answer: Killed a helicopter pilot and flew. OR it wasn't really Haskell in L.A. - It was another bride, plastic surgeried to look like Haskell. Ahh hah hahhahhah!

:lol: I'm just thinking...he sure seems to magically get from Vegas to LA to Vegas on a whim, doesn't he?

Maybe he's secretly a wizard and can apparate at whim...or he was using floo powder...

 

[jafox]

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

Realistic answer: Drove.

CSI answer: Killed a helicopter pilot and flew. OR it wasn't really Haskell in L.A. - It was another bride, plastic surgeried to look like Haskell. Ahh hah hahhahhah!

:lol: I'm just thinking...he sure seems to magically get from Vegas to LA to Vegas on a whim, doesn't he?

Just another reason to support my 'Why in the world did this episode have to take place in LA?' criticism.
As far as Nick's actions, I would have to agree with those that criticize his behavior. As an assistant supervisor, his work should be an extension of the supervisor. So his loyalty should be with Catherine; and not informing her of their trip to the pier may have cost them catching Haskell. But, I'm sure his actions will be forgiven, just as Langston's will. Reality has 'left the building' in the current CSI-verse.

 

[kittydu]

I have nothing against Ray, I really dont, but im kinda tired that the last two seasons have been focused on him. I want that CSI comeback to what it used to be, you know different cases not all of them focused on only one CSI, I want to see the team!! I think it strike me more the change now because I started to see season 4 and them saw the episode and the diference was to much... I saw till the end just to ended but im not so excited to see the season finale to be honest.

This is just my opinion, and im looking foward for season 12 and hoping a great comeback of CSI and start again with normal cases and leave behind seasons focused on serial killer and only one CSI.

The only part I liked on this episode was greg and hodges and the fight over the phone XD

 

[Desertwind]

BTW...wonder how Haskell got back to Vegas?

Realistic answer: Drove.

CSI answer: Killed a helicopter pilot and flew. OR it wasn't really Haskell in L.A. - It was another bride, plastic surgeried to look like Haskell. Ahh hah hahhahhah!

:lol: I'm just thinking...he sure seems to magically get from Vegas to LA to Vegas on a whim, doesn't he?

I've wondered that too..He's an escaped serial killer, so if he drove, wouldn't the Highway Patrol be on the lookout for him? and how would he have a drivers license? On flying I don't think you could take a kidnap victim on a plane, she would be screaming, so how did he get back to Nevada?

 

[kaylyne]

I would guess that Haskell has a taken a vehicle from one of his "Brides" or he could have gotten one the same way that Ray got a gun and computer - lots of cash given to a not-so-reputable person.

 

[sharp52092]

^^ Haskell probably drove, stole the car and killed the driver or somehow had enough cash on hand to get one, plus you don't necessarily need a liscense to drive, just gotta make sure you don't get caught

I've been rewatching, don't like the beginning I mean is Ray a jedi and felt a disturbance in the Force :lol:

Morgan: "I went over Sosa's head, please tell me I'm not gonna lose mine" :lol: sounds like Ecklie

Posting a guard at his door might not be a bad idea Cath

Love seeing several women on CSI again

Can Sosa come to Vegas too! He's one of few people who actually stand up to Ray

 

[byline]

I would guess that Haskell has a taken a vehicle from one of his "Brides" or he could have gotten one the same way that Ray got a gun and computer - lots of cash given to a not-so-reputable person.

That's what I figured. Also, it's not that far from L.A. to Vegas; only about a five-hour drive. It wouldn't surprise me that he could get there in the dead of night while avoiding major highways. Sounds like he's lived there all his life, so he would know the area pretty well, know how to get around by taking the back roads and so on.

 

[Desertwind]

Well sorry to disappoint ya' all, but the only road to Vegas from L.A. is the I-15, there are many side roads, later down the line, but to get there there are none. I lived in Nevada and the main road, and it's the only one is the I-15. After Pahrump, there are side roads, but you go through Barstow and Baker 1st, then it's wide open but the Highway Patrol are all over like flies on you no what, And I would think someone issued an APB on him, & they would be on high alert looking for this freak, so it's quite a mystery Maybe he hired someone to drive them there, not so suspicious~

 

[byline]

Ah, OK. I don't live there, haven't even visited, so I don't know the terrain. I'm used to back roads going every which way, so I assumed the same was true of Vegas to L.A. Sorry about that!

 

[Desertwind]

NO need to be sorry, I wouldn't know your area either. I was born in L.A. and lived in Vegas, so been on the old I-15 many times.here's a direct link and various landmarks along the way~

http://gocalifornia.about.com/od/topcalifornia/qt/la_to_lv.htm

 

[Raynn]

If the Highway Patrol didn't know what type of car he was driving, what are the chances of them recognizing him driving past in the middle of the night? Unless he's doing something illegal, they wouldn't have any reason to pull him over. Both times, they didn't seem to realize he'd be leaving town, so no reason for roadblocks or anything either.

According to google maps, you can avoid the I-15, going through Death Valley, but it doubles the travel time (from 4:20 to 8:50). I don't remember the time frames from the episode, so no idea if that's even possible.