"19 Down..." Discussion *SPOILERS*

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Air Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008
Time Slot: 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on CBS
Episode Title: (#909) "19 Down…"

THE CSI TEAM DISCOVERS A LINK BETWEEN A NEW MURDER AND THE INFAMOUS "DICK & JANE KILLER. - When a new murder leads to a connection with an infamous serial killer, Grissom secretly joins the class of well-known criminal pathologist Dr. Raymond Langston, to gain access to the killer and get a crack in the case. - Grissom announces his retirement, and the rest of the episode focuses on the gang's reaction--Willows knew it was coming before Grissom did, Super Dave cries, etc. Dr. Raymond Langston, in a classroom setting, but Grissom's current investigation and Langston's lesson plan--interviewing a serial killer as an academic exercise--soon intersect. Langston busts Grissom in a lie shortly after they meet, their clash is quickly put aside when the serial killer Langston was interviewing starts spilling secrets about a series of recent homicides taking place in the city.

SERIES REGULARS:
Gil Grissom: William Petersen
Catherine Willows: Marg Helgenberger
Dr. Raymond Langston: Laurence Fishburne
Nick Stokes: George Eads
Captain Jim Brass: Paul Guilfoyle
Greg Sanders: Eric Szmanda
Dr. Robbins: Robert David Hall
David Phillips: David Berman
Hodges: Wallace Langham
Wendy Simms: Liz Vassey
Riley Adams: Lauren Lee Smith

RECURRING CAST:
Conrad Ecklie: Marc Vann
Archie Johnson: Archie Kao

GUEST CAST:
Det. Vartann: Alex Carter
Mandy Webster: Sheeri Rappaport
Nathan Haskell: Bill Irwin
Gerald Tolliver: Brad Carter
ADA Valerie Nichols: Amy Aquino
Overcoat Man: Shane Woodson
Officer Akers: Larry Sullivan
Det. Ken Martz: Maury Sterling
Mr. Steiner: Richard Gilliland
Mrs. Steiner: Caroline Aaron
Thomas: Jimmi Simpson
Silvia: Aimee DeShayes
Car Wash Manager: David H. Lawrence XVII
Richie: Stephan Sowan
Donny: Todd Giebenhain
Student #1: Roy Vongtama
Dan Forester: Matt O'Leary
Tiffany Cohen: Mimi Michaels
Joel Steiner: Josh Jacobson

WRITTEN BY: Naren Shankar and Carol Mendelsohn
DIRECTED BY: Kenneth Fink

THANKS TO:
"The Futon Critic"
"E! Online: Watching With Kristin"
 
Really looking forward to this episode. It'll be great to see another new character coming in this season and seeing what he brings to the show.
 
I am looking forward to it too. CSI gets some new blood, I am in favor of a change.
 
So am I, but I'm skeptical at the same because I don't want to see the show turn entirely the Laurence Fishbourne show. Already he's taken the lead ahead of George Eads which is sad given George has been on the show since its inception.

And I say that with all due respect to LF who I am very happy to see join the show. I have a feeling he'll tie with Catherine as my second favourite character.
 
From Entertainment Weekly magazine:

The exhaustion in the eyes of Gil Grissom - the bags under the bags - may be fine acting on the part of William Petersen, or it may reveal his true state as his character prepares to wrap up a nine-season run on CSI on Jan 15th. The series has been reviving some of Gil's greatest hits with new cases involving Lady Heather and his insidious nemesis the Miniature Serial Killer, but Gil's (not Petersen's) rhythm has been off. No longer does Grissom approach each maggot-ridden, bloated corpse with the gusto of Sweeney Todd stropping his razor. He just wants out.
It's a tricky thing to pull off a fan favorite exiting because his heart isn't in it anymore; what heart Grissom had left was stilled by the departure of his colleague/lover Sara (Jorja Fox). But playing tired despair can come across as boredom, something Petersen has mostly avoided. That is, until this week's episode, in which Gil's torpor contrasts with the brisk energy of a new crime-solver, Dr. Raymond Langston (Laurence Fishburne), seen grilling a serial killer and soon to join the team. I'll miss Grissom, but welcome Langston's brusque authority; lotsa possibilities for friction with the prickly CSI crew.
Many of the regulars get their own scenes with Grissom as he tells of his departure. The most realistic belongs to Paul Guilfoyle's jaded cop Jim Brass. Brass mouths cliches about how they'll have to get together more, go boating, yada. yada. They stare at each other. They know they won't. Grade: B+ By: Ken Tucker
 
Toots said:
From Entertainment Weekly magazine:

The exhaustion in the eyes of Gil Grissom - the bags under the bags - may be fine acting on the part of William Petersen, or it may reveal his true state as his character prepares to wrap up a nine-season run on CSI on Jan 15th. The series has been reviving some of Gil's greatest hits with new cases involving Lady Heather and his insidious nemesis the Miniature Serial Killer, but Gil's (not Petersen's) rhythm has been off. No longer does Grissom approach each maggot-ridden, bloated corpse with the gusto of Sweeney Todd stropping his razor. He just wants out.
It's a tricky thing to pull off a fan favorite exiting because his heart isn't in it anymore; what heart Grissom had left was stilled by the departure of his colleague/lover Sara (Jorja Fox). But playing tired despair can come across as boredom, something Petersen has mostly avoided. That is, until this week's episode, in which Gil's torpor contrasts with the brisk energy of a new crime-solver, Dr. Raymond Langston (Laurence Fishburne), seen grilling a serial killer and soon to join the team. I'll miss Grissom, but welcome Langston's brusque authority; lotsa possibilities for friction with the prickly CSI crew.
Many of the regulars get their own scenes with Grissom as he tells of his departure. The most realistic belongs to Paul Guilfoyle's jaded cop Jim Brass. Brass mouths cliches about how they'll have to get together more, go boating, yada. yada. They stare at each other. They know they won't. Grade: B+ By: Ken Tucker
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Still skeptical, but I did like the previews with LF-looks interesting.
 
I like them too. It looks like it will be good. I think I will still enjoy the show with him as the new guy.

I just saw a new promo for this ep during CSI: Miami. It had a few new clips in it.
 
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Greg'sSnowAngel said:
I like them too. It looks like it will be good. I think I will still enjoy the show with him as the new guy.

I just saw a new promo for this ep during CSI: Miami. It had a few new clips in it.
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Yeah and it actually showed Greg's face when he said his line. :lol:
 
Yeah I noticed that too. Oh and you get to see Grissom and his famous hat again. :D
 
In the scene where Grissom tells the team he's leaving, did anyone else notice that it looked as if Grissom was wiping away tears as he left the room? Or am I imagining it?
 
Am I the only one who have noticed that Greg will become a level 3 tonight?

But short celebration.... Grissom drop the bomb about leaving only minutes after (remind me of Nick and the news of Holy's death)
 
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No you are not. I think we discussed it in the regular spoiler thread before this one was created. I'm just assuming that he has been a level 2 for awhile now but they neglected to tell us.
 
Check this out from TVGuide.com

In one part it says that after Grissom announces his leaving one "perturbed co-worker" says "You gotta do what you gotta do. Have a nice life". Boy, I kinda hope that'll be Nick, but I bet it will be Greg. After all, he's been perturbed ever since Sara left.

So let the debate as to who says that begin... :lol:
 
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