How can we know for sure that there's no reason? How do we know for 100% sure that Natalia isn't just suspicious of Samantha and that that suspicion is the reason for any negative vibes? IMO, if there's attitude, that's all its about (her being suspicious of Sam).
Right now, we really don't know how much Natalia knows about Walter being asked to spy for O'Shay, or anything like that. Cal and Walter and H were involved in that, though I guess Nat was probably in the loop eventually, but I don't believe the normal viewing audience will pick up on that undercurrent - I think they'll just see Nat as being a b*$ch to Sam b/c Sam screwed up once (or they may've missed that ep and have no idea why Nat is acting this way.) Either way, while I agree it could be b/c Nat's suspicious, it would make more sense to put Walter in that role, since he was the one O'Shay asked. Although I guess you could say "it takes one to no one" when it comes to Nat sniffing out a mole. :lol:
Ultimately, we have no evidence that Nat is connecting Sam to O'Shay - all we know is she was pissed that she screwed up the evidence (and acted out of character), and is still giving her attitude. Yes, I see her approach to Sam as attitude b/c it's not how she normally deals w/the CSIs - she would NEVER talk that way to Calleigh or Ryan or anyone else on the team - even Walter who's her junior.
I'd also like to reiterrate that I'm saying this b/c I LIKE Nat and don't want to see her character destroyed by poor writing and misrepresentation, leaving us to make excuses for odd behavior. (I just don't know if TPTB are that smart to make Nat suspicious of Sam.)
When did Natalia cost someone their life? I don't recall that at all. I'm wracking my brain trying to remember that and I honestly don't remember anything like that ever happening. Would you mind explaining to what incident you are referring?
Actually, I wasn't referring to 5x01, although what she did in that ep. COULD HAVE led the boy to kill, even though it turned out the boy didn't do it b/c of Nat.
The ep. I was referring to was "Permanent Vacation" in Season 6. She lets that mother walk right up to the killer and confront him, and the mother pulls a gun and kills the killer. While it may've been justice, and I don't think Nat is completely to blame, it seems to me she shouldn't have let the mother get that close to that guy to begin with. She just seemed to miss something, and it did cost a life. Again, I like Nat a lot, especially the fact that she's flawed. But for her to be snapping at a new CSI b/c they made a mistake seems hypocritical when you look at her track record during her first year (after the mole thing).
Nat on the other hand was very dissmissive of her in this episode
She was? She congratulated Sam for making detective. If Natalia was being dismissive, she probably would have immediately changed the subject WITHOUT congratulating Samantha.
Yea, I think she was dismissive. The congratulations were half-hearted and it was mainly Delko doing the congratulating (he brought it up). She seemed kind of irritated by it, judging from her demeanor. Also, her snappy comment saying that she should take the lead b/c she already talked to the guy - it's the WAY she said it - like I said before, she would NEVER talk that way to any of the other CSIs. I've never seen Nat act like that. It concerns me.
Did Natalia ever get any kind of therapy after her ordeal in the trunk? If not, she could still be having some stress from that. That was a pretty traumatic experience. That coupled with the stress of the Navarro case could cause a person to lash out.
I agree w/whoever said she's probably been in therapy b/c of the whole Nick thing, although I didn't remember the ep. in Season 5 where she mentioned it. I wish TPTB would show us more character moments like that so we can at least know a little bit about where their heads are at and if they're getting any help. She could sure use some therapy after all she's been through, and if that's what's causing her attitude, I don't really get it. Sam has no connection to Nat's experiences, she just another new person.
However, I find Samantha suspicious, so it wouldn't surprise me if Natalia did too.
You and me both :thumbsup: I think most people find her suspicious. I agree with all your points there, and it's looking to me like Sam's working for O'Shay, but who knows - TPTB could just be leading us on. Personally, I think it's a lame storyline that's already been done before, but it's better than just having Sam be there for no reason - I don't really like her and think she's 2 dimensional and boring. There's too many cast members as it is and she's taking up precious time that could be split amongst our regular (and favorite) cast members. :wtf: I HATE that.
