1001 things you don't do in a fanfic

umbrello said:
Having the characters act like love-struck, angst-filled teenagers. It's really annoying.
Oh God yes! I think the people who write like that think like that. *grinds teeth* I hate the automatic jealousy that comes with that kind of writing. The object of one character's affections is having a conversation with someone and that character is overcome by jealousy so much that they act totally unprofessionally. None of the characters in any of the series would act like that. :rolleyes:
 
I don't actually have anything to add but I thought I'd join in one thing I'm terribly guilty of, mainly doing this -
"Blah", said person.

Ah yes, I always put the comma outside the ""'s. I have a good reason for that, though (at least I keep telling myself I have), and it goes like this - I'm Swedish. Swedish people write like this.
Am I being a terrible person if I don't retype it for you other guys? xD I'd do it, but I never actually think about it, since it's natural for me to write like that.

Other than that I love your points here, and I don't have anything to add myself. Or wait I just thought of something-

Keep the scenes together. I'm pretty sure I read something were the guy had black jeans when he sat down by the table and then he rose and they were blue.
... yep, what's up with that?
I don't think it's a common mistake but it's icky nonetheless.
 
Number: Whateer we are on.

People who do crossover things with random shows. CSI with numb3rs, I can see. CSI with 'my little pony' is a big no-no.

Also with crossovers, if you're intent on doing one characterization is just as important with the minor featured show as it is with the primary. Do your research and think about how you interact the crossover-ed characters.
 
Hi everyone.

As a fairly new fanfic writer, I'm guilty to a few of the previously listed things, but I thought I'd add one that really gets to me.

I'm not sure what number we're on, but...

Not keeping in the same tense. I really dislike when I'm reading a story and it switches from past tense to present.

I also agree that reading stories where everything and everyone's blissfully happy and perfect all the time gets tiring fast. The real world isn't like that. If you want to hold someone interest, make something happen. Some kind of conflict. I don't know...
 
Purejoylove said:
Hi everyone.

As a fairly new fanfic writer, I'm guilty to a few of the previously listed things, but I thought I'd add one that really gets to me.

I'm not sure what number we're on, but...

Not keeping in the same tense. I really dislike when I'm reading a story and it switches from past tense to present.

I also agree that reading stories where everything and everyone's blissfully happy and perfect all the time gets tiring fast. The real world isn't like that. If you want to hold someone interest, make something happen. Some kind of conflict. I don't know...
Conflict is definitely something you need in a fanfic. Otherwise, it's not going to be an interesting story. -looks guilty- Unfortunately, I'm guilty in this degree for my first multichapter fic on fanfiction.net. Conflict after conflict after conflict. I feel like a total loser when reading it now, and I'm tempted to go back and rewrite it.
 
Distraction said:
Ah yes, I always put the comma outside the ""'s. I have a good reason for that, though (at least I keep telling myself I have), and it goes like this - I'm Swedish. Swedish people write like this.
Am I being a terrible person if I don't retype it for you other guys? xD I'd do it, but I never actually think about it, since it's natural for me to write like that.

You're not a terrible person if you don't retype it. ;) But like I say to a lot of people (not necessarily on this board) whose maternal language isn't English, it always helps big time to get a Beta. :) Of course, no one's going to harass you to death if the grammar isn't 100% perfect. I suppose it's the people who have grown up with English as their first language that most people get irked about. They're the ones that don't have an excuse for poor basic writing skills.

I agree with Purejoylove. The tenses in a fic need to stay constant. It's like writing an essay--you can't jump around from past to present or your cohesion goes down the drain. (There are of course some authors who reference a flashback or a jump to the future, - for the sake of being stylistically different - but these are done on purpose and the reader is aware of it. Most times, authors prefer to stay in one tense even if they're writing for a flashback or flashforward--The CSI books, for example)

Like what was mentioned earlier, some sort of conflict should be added into a story otherwise it can't really be called a story. Remember that 'short story' pyramid? The basics for a standard piece of dramatic literature:

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^ This is Freytag's pyramid for dramatic literature. It's divided into five parts:

-Exposition (Introduction to the characters, setting, basic overview of the conflict)

-Rising Action (complications provided to the characters by the conflict in the form of obstacles that the protagonist must overcome)

-Climax (or turning point)

-Falling action (conflict unravels with either a win or lose outcome for the protagonist)

-Dénoument/catastrophe/resolution (this is dependant on the type of story)

Again, these are just the basics. A lot of stories go far and beyond what's on the pyramid.

Making things happy happy without any sort of dilemma (even 'which section of the newspaper should I read?' is a conflict) does not a story make.
 
You know, I'm so selfish. I never even thought about that ^^ Distraction.

I've never thought it was any different. :rolleyes:. Well, I've learnt something new today :D

Another, people who post 'stories' that are, what, five lines long. It sounds bizzare but I swear it happens. People post what I'd type up as a story outline. It's terrible!

Jodie x
 
Two more things

Stories that start out good but the ending is rushed
OOC slave stories-obviously we don't know who's into what in their private lives, and we do have Lady Heather in the mix, but I just have noticed a few summaries that sound like the fic is a bit over the top. Also really strange alternate universes...AU can be a good thing but I ran into a couple where some chars were slaves, like real ones not BDSM ones, and such...IDK, maybe it just isn't my taste.
 
Because I have nothing better to do, (and I like making lists. :p) I numbered the rules I saw on the last few pages (some were longer so they were either shortened or broken into parts. Any problems just tell me and I'll edit the list. :)) You can also repost it and add onto it whatever it is I missed (ad I'm sure I missed something).

1001 Things You Don't Do In A Fanfic (so far)

1. In the immortal words of Ross Gellar: "Y-O-U-apostrophe-R-E means 'YOU ARE'. Y-O-U-R means 'YOUR.'" It's called a homonym. Please use it right.

2. Danny proposing 5 minutes after Danny and Lindsay's relationship starts, and then Lindsay finding out she is pregnant with triplets 5 minutes after that, isn't realistic.

3. Please, for the love of all things holy, don't use chatspeak in your fanfic.

4. No more westerns or musicals. There's only one exception for this rule, and that's a fic on ff.net called The Mysterious Ticking Noise. Kudos to whoever came up with the idea of parodying the Potter Puppet Pals.

5. Cross-overs can be interesting but a cross-over between 'CSI' and 'The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air' is a tad improbable. Same goes for 'My Little Pony'.

6. The the obvious "no Mary Sue" or the male equivelant "Gary Stu" rule. (That's those characters who are good at everything, have no flaws, super smart, look gorgeous...all at the same time.)

7. Please make sure there's at least halfway decent spelling and punctuation. (that's what spell checker and betas are for.)

8. Don't leave out "speech marks" ("quotation marks")

9. Plots don't have to be overly complicated. Simple is best.

10. Try and stay away from all smut, no plot in your stories (PWP). Unless that's the kind of thing that "floats your boat".

11. No "Out of Character" characteristics, PLEASE. (example: two characters who hate each other all of a sudden become all "lovey dovey" with no little to no explanation.)

12. Be original: don't use movie plots for fanfics (taking a movie plot and simply replacing character names is not good. Use your imagination!)

13. Avoid song fics that have more song than fanfic. If you must do one, don't be so dependent on the lyrics.

14. Related to the above: Verses and choruses that are littered throughout the fic can be a bit distracting. Perhaps you can put the lyrics at the end and just hang the fic loosely on the meaning of the song, rather than following it slavishly.

15. Characters that are often portrayed as jerks may eventually put off some readers. Don't stretch your credibility; unless the character is actually as bad as you are portraying him/her in your story, don't over-do it.

16. ANY website will tell you how to spell the characters' names (and it's on the back of the DVDs) so there should be no reason to spell them wrong!

17. Don't start a new paragraph when a new person speaks.

18. Along with OOC, there is total lack of characterization (ex: Calleigh is not going to break apart and burst into tears because someone messed up her desk and Grissom is not going to stop loving his bugs just becasue you don't like them.)

19. If you have an Original Character, please give them a purpose; a drive. Don't make them bland.

20. (More for the readers:) There's a difference between being tactful and blindly encouraging bad writers to continue writing bad stories. Don't do it. It's called constructive criticism.

21. While we shouldn't only post "your story is awesome" reviews all the time, avoid flaming. (Obvious rule, but cannot be said enough).

22. Avoid incest. It's not only OOC, it's not pleasant to read for most.

23. Avoid rape in regards to female CSI characters. If you do write a fic like that, please, don't have a male character swoop in like a knight in shining armor, then have the female character and the hero have sex practically 2 weeks after her rape! (Not realistic, not healthy!)

24. If you're 14 years old (or younger) and you're about to write a smut fic... don't. Just no. (Lack of maturity among many reasons as to why not.)

25. Immature writers overall should try not to write a sappy, fairytale love type stories. Not to say "stay away from fluff." Just try and keep the stories realistic. (Or at least warn readers of "fluff" beforehand!)

26. Avoid "set in high school" fics whenever possible.

27. Do not say in your summary that you're bad at summarizing! If you can't write a decent summary, chances are, your story is not worth reading.

28. Betas who don't know how to spell "grammar" should not be betas. Sorry.

29. Research, research, research. (This is pivotal, especially for fics pertaining to CSI. Need to find out the crime rate in Vegas, Miami or NY? Spend a few minutes on Google. Want to explain how a bullet embalism works? Wikipedia is a Godsend.)

30. We, the readers, are glad you updated your story but if your authors notes are longer than the actual chapter, there is a problem.

31. A sentence always starts with a capital letter and ends in some form of punctuation.

32. The author's accent should not seep into a CSI fic. CSI is an American show with American characters, thus writing a fic using Canadian/British/Australian/whatever slang (especially when there's dialogue between the CSI characters) creates poor characterization.

33. On a related note, don't go overboard with the "accents". Trying to type a Brooklyn accent or a Texan drawl in every line a character says makes their dialogue hard to read.

34. Use appropriate formatting when you’re writing. A proper story does not consist of one big paragraph, but several smaller paragraphs.

35. Don't post something you're not happy about. Go back and make the effort to fix it.

36. If you're working on a multi-chapter story, don't post 200 words per update and drag out one scene over ten "chapters". Nobody cares if you "UPDATE DAILY LOL" if you post three lines of dialogue and call it a chapter. It really breaks the flow of the story.

37. There is no such thing as "simultaneous realization". (ex: Eric and Calleigh both realized at the same time that they were in love simultaneous in the exact same moment together.

38. Don't spend your whole authors notes (A/N) talking about how, if you don't get a certain number of reviews, you'll quit writing the story. That's just really crappy.

39. Please make the distinction between the CSI Hummers and Denalis and the character's personal cars. (Sara drives a Sedan, Nick drives a truck.)

40. (More for the readers, again:) One line reviews are virtually an insult to the author who spends so much time on their story. It's understandable if there really isn't much to say, but a lot of writers appreciate some girth to their feedback.

41. If you've only been watching CSI (or Miami/NY) for a week, please don't write a story. Take the time to actually figure out what the show is about, and the backstories on the characters before you write a story that's completely OOC.

42. Understand the character a little more before you attempt to write about them; even though there could be a decent plot to the story, some readers may stop reading.

43: If you watch enough of the show you should know at least the basics of a character's accent/speech pattern. If you can't hear the character saying a phrase in your head, then they probably wouldn't say it.

44. Slash fics where they go from straight to gay in a matter of a few minutes and by the 10th chapter they are driving up to Canada to tie the knot is inconcievable and should not be done like that.

45. On a related note: Don't ignore the latest shippings if you're writing a slash story. (ex: If you're currently writing a Danny/Flack story, note the fact that TPTB paired Danny off with Lindsay and Flack is currently flirting with Angell. Two options could be: place the story before Danny and Lindsay hooked up, or show a break-up because of Flack.)

46. Most characters have a back story or have some indication of what their lives were like. If you don't know, ask someone.

47. Related to the above: if your character doesn't have much of a back story, creativity is a big plus. Just try not to be too outrageous!

48. If you're going to ignore something that happened in the show, clearly state that in your A/N.

49. Tell us when you're going to have spoilers for certian episodes; a little 'if you haven't seen past this episode' or 'this story has references to...' "heads up" is a good idea.

50. (For the readers, yet again:) Asking a question about the fic (ex: "Are Danny and Lindsay gonna have a baby?") seems silly. Does it really make a difference? Are you going to stop reading the story if the answer is no? This applies to all questions in the form, "Are they gonna/Is there gonna be/Will they _____." Maybe you should read the story and find out!

51. Remember physical characteristics! Example: Calleigh has green eyes, not blue eyes, and Speedle is rarely clean shaven.

52. Punctuate dialogue properly, please. (It's: "Hey, Delko," said Ryan.) The comma comes before the quotation marks.

53. When it comes to angst: if you're not sure about it, don't do it. It's annoying.

54. Punctuate dialogue properly, please. (It's: "Hey, Delko," said Ryan.) The comma comes before the quotation marks.

55. When it comes to angst: if your not sure about it, don't do it. It's annoying.

56. Avoid the accidental pregnancies! These are responsible adults we are writing about. By now they should have learned about safe sex.

57. Please avoid cliches whenever possible.

58. It's incredibly OOC to make your characters so horny all the time. They don't randomly make out in the lab/the showers/the broom closet/ ad nauseum. Don't do it.

59. Don't jump back and forth between narratives in stories. It's really hard to keep up with a fic if it's constantly skipping from first person, to third person and back again. Not to mention, it totally messes with the flow of the story.

60. (For the readers, yet again:) Asking a question about the fic (ex: "Are Danny and Lindsay gonna have a baby?") seems silly. Does it really make a difference? Are you going to stop reading the story if the answer is no? This applies to all questions in the form, "Are they gonna/Is there gonna be/Will they _____." Maybe you should read the story and find out!

61. DO NOT include personal author's notes in the story's text! Stick to having it at the beginning or end.

62. Besides a beta, you can also use a peer editor. (Hand it off to a friend and say 'is this readable? Is my grammer okay? Is my spelling alright?')

63. Don't have your stories drag on and on and on... (particularly angst. How much of it can a character continually go through?)

64. If you write a slash story, be wary of your "defensive A/N". It's one thing to be defensive, it's another thing to be on the attack before anyone even says anything.

65. DO NOT include personal author's notes in the story's text! Stick to having it at the beginning or end.

66. Besides a beta, you can also use a peer editor. (Hand it off to a friend and say 'is this readable? Is my grammer okay? Is my spelling alright?')

67. Don't have your stories drag on and on and on... (particularly angst. How much of it can a character continually go through?)

68. If you write a slash story, be wary of your "defensive A/N". It's one thing to be defensive, it's another thing to be on the attack before anyone even says anything.

69. Angst stories might work well if you mix it up a bit, especially in a multi chapter fic. Some funny moments (perhaps from the other characters) are a refreshing breath of fresh air.

70. It's really annoying to readers when an author posts a multi-chapter story but NEVER finishes it (whether it's because of writer's block or simply growing bored with it). It's leaves the readers hanging and that's just not cool. (Have your story already written out or at least have an outline of it done).

71. If it's your first fanfic, you can write that if you want but it's not necessary to do so. If you do, don't make a big deal about it.

72. If you're going to do a cliche plot idea, at least try to go about it a different way. (Try and tweak it to make the plot somewhat new and exciting).

73. Make sure you know the difference between homonyms. (words that sound alike but are spelled differently and have a different meaning).

74. For God's sake. If you're going to curse or use his name, type it all the way out! (None if this F*** and G-d business.) If you're not comfortable using the language, it doesn't need to be used. It's as simple as that.

75. Lack of emotions/descriptions is boring. (Examples: He said, "...". Then she said, "...". "...", he answered.) You can say something loudly, quietly, agressively, tenderly, with your eyes cast down or with a wrinkled forehead etc.

76. Don't put in large chunks of the dialogue that comes straight out of an actual episode. You're writing a fanfic, not a transcript.

77. Either action or sex written blow-by-blow robs it of all the effect it might possibly have had. There are times when a little poetical glossing-over says much more than descibing every move can.

78. Your idea on the characterization is not the one and only. An author's note explaining why the character acted that way and it can't be argued will turn a reader off the story.

79. Make sure to listen to constructive criticism. Readers give this advice to help you, not to insult me.

80. (Once again, specifically for the readers:) If you take the time to favorite a story try and make some time to leave a review. (A simple: "I love how you characterized Nick," or "Great story so far but I think it's kinda jumping around a lot," is not difficult.)

81. Do not combine words together. For example: "Themorningafter" or "aroundthecorner".

82. Please try and use hyphens (-) correctly. If you're unsure about how to use it, ust ask.

83. Also, please use apostrophes (,) correctly.

84. Don't make your fics so long. Break them up into chapters,

85. Having the characters act like love-struck, angst-filled teenagers is a big "don't". It's really annoying. (the female CSI characters don't cry at the drop of a hat and the male CSI characters don't fly into jealous rages).

86. If you do cross-overs, it's just as important to have down the characterizations of the secondary show as it is with the primary show.

87. Conflict is key to any story. The thing to keep in mind is 'balance'. Too much or too little conflict is not very believable. Remember the "short story pyramid": Exposition (aka Introduction), Rising Action (or Obstacles to overcome), Climax (aka Turning Point), Falling action (Conflict unravels), and the Dénoument (aka Resolution).

88. Five-line "stories" are not stories.

89. Try not to rush your ending. That screams poor writing.

90. Slave stories and other Alternate Universe (AU) stories are particularly difficult to write. Don't attempt to do so unless you're surre what you're doing. (And have writing experience).

(I wonder if we'll make it to 1001... :cool:)
 
I got one!

If you are going to do an AU, please keep the characters in-character. No one's going to read something that's completely out of their nature.

IDK, just something I thought...
 
Yeah you said it better than I could with the slave thing,Hestia, thanks

*facepalm* I've been guilty of the vehicle thing a time or two I think
 
Here is one to add.

Try to be original with plot lines. Collecting ideas from different stories are fine, it'll help you create new scenarios but copying an idea/plot from start to finish, just wording it slightly different, I FEEL, is a big no no!

I just recently posted a story over on FANFIC, on the 15th of December, only to see someone post a story on the 23rd, almost identical to mine. Same plot line and outcome, ideas and interactions, even the same story title. It wasn't word for word, so it can't really be considered plagiarizing *can it??*, but to say the least, I was really pissed! And what got me, was this person left very encouraging words in the review, only to turn around and do this 8 days later. It was like reading my own all over again, just simplified.
 
I'm sorry that happened to you. I had the same thing happen to me at Ff.net as well.
The person obviously read my fic, changed the female character then posted the same scenario, characters, and storyline two days later. Some of it was word for word from mine. :mad:

So, I understand that yes, you get stuck as a writer, you get frustrated and sometimes you write your self into a corner so to speak. Yes, it's important to read what other's have written, it gives us inspiration at times but PLEASE DO NOT PLAGERIZE! not only is it rude, and selfish, but on some sites, you are breaking copyright law!!!!

That is what a beta is for. They should tell you that you are copying someone else's work and they should be able to help you create something else.
 
Plagerism is one of the worst things you could ever do for a fanfic. Betas are one of the best. You've pretty much put that in a nutshell for safe keeping...
 
Thanks for making the list Hestia but a few of those were written several times.

50 is the same thing as 60. Same thing with: 52&54, 61&65, 62&66, 53&55 and I believe there are a few others. There was one, though I didn't catch it my second time through, that appeared 3 times.

Also on number 83 you say: "Also, please use apostrophes (,) correctly." but you've used a comma as an example of an apostrophe.

I don't know if it has been more than 24 hours since you posted the list or not but I thought if it hadn't you could maybe change those things while you still have time.

Thanks very much for writing up the list. It's a great help to have things so organized.

*cookies for Hestia!*
 
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