The Weak Link

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As for any show, there's usually one thing or person on the show that becomes the weak link. This person can be the one that often seems to not fit in, stands out from the others (often not in a good way), etc. Or if it's the writing, it can be cheesy things such as "Oh my God, I can't believe that's a dead body on the floor! *insert person screaming*" Well, duh, it's obvious it's a dead body. :p

So, what are the weak links on the three shows for you?

On CSI, the weak link for me was Sara. I was okay with her during Season's 1-3 and part of Season 4, but then she just started ruining things for me. She became to depressed and gloomy and brought things down for me.

On Miami, the cinematography and Horatio are the weakest links IMO. It's always too orange and hurts the eyes, as Horatio--he overacts and becomes soap-opera-ish, where as the show has already become that a bit. :rolleyes:

And for NY, it's quite obvious who the weak link is--Lindsay. She brings Danny down and is not the greatest actor on the show.
 
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I only watch Las Vegas, so the weak link to me would have to be Sara. At the beginning I thought she as a very intelligent, witty person. But as the series progressed(along with GSR. Just pointing out the parallels here.), she seemed to become more and more moody, grumpy, aggitated, etc. Her attitude was what really turned me off from the character. Plus, she was just the one character I could not relate to, at all. Not to knock JF, but her acting style was not my favorite, which also affected the way I saw the character of Sara.
 
I'd have to agree on the Vegas front, I liked Sara for awhile but she just changed too much for the worst and became overly moody and just ugh--sorry Sara, You are the weakest link. Goodbye. lol

On Miami, Horatio's 'Captain Obvious' lines are the reason I dislike him and the show so much. So, to me, Horatio is the weakest link.

I'm not saying anything in regards to NY since it's my favorite show and I love each and every one of the characters.
 
I understand why so many don't like Sara but IMO every show needs a depressive character.GSR is something else but Sara was OK.

Of all 3 CSIs,the only weak link is Lindsay.Is a combination of poor writing and the actress but I am either annoyed or bored with her.She is not even a character to love to hate.
 
I haven't watched CSI for a while, so I'll hold my judgment on that until I catch up. But I have been watching CSI: NY, so I can honestly say that for me, the weak link is Lindsay. The actress just cannot show the appropriate amount of emotion needed for a character like Lindsay, and the writers just haven't written her as well as they could have. Plus, she changed Danny, and not for the better, in my opinion. Where's the independent, rash Danny we all knew and loved? Not that I don't love him anymore but...
 
Vegas: Sara ... she plan out got on my nerves since she's been on the show. And I liked Jorga on ER, it's just the character of Sara was way too much of a bitch for me to take in.

Miami: Horatio * zzzzzzzz * I swear that show puts me asleep ... but if it had less of his corny lines, I might be able to tolerate the show.

NY: I actually like all of the characters, but in the weakest link catagory I'll pick someone who's actually my favorite. Adam doesn't get the amount of screen time/stories that he should. I'd love to get farther into the character.
 
LV: Well IMHO it had to be Sara, she really annoyed me from the start, she was always so depressing and clingy, especially when she was with Gil.

Miami: I don't actually watch it, but what I've seen of Horatio, he really bugs me, it's actually him that puts me off the show, he's just so over dramatic...

NY: Being my favourite show, I don't really think it has one... I guess Angell, I don't really know, there is just something about her that I don't like, I think it's her personality, she seems to be very over powering, oh I don't really know...
 
I don't think there is a weak link, they were all unique and different in their own way.. and I think Sara was one of the strongest ever characters in TV history she was amazing on every episode:bolian: now annoying, well I won't say who, as not to pi** anyone else off, but it's not Hodges or Ecklie:evil:
 
CSI LV: My choice has to be Sara, though she was great the first few seasons, later on she brought everything and everyone down. Her poor me attitude just wasn't what the team or the show for that matter needed. It's kind of like she went emo and then tried to pull herself back, without success.

CSI Miami: Not that this person is totally weak, but H annoys me with how he has to save everything and be everywhere. It's like he's stalking his own team and keeping them from breathing, thinking, or doing for themselves.

CSI NY: It's going to be Lindsay, seriously what the heck...if she's not going on about something back in Montana it's about her and Danny's relationship (but that rant is for another thread). If Montana is so darn great, please go back there and take your boringness with you.
 
Ditto on Miami and NY. I've never watched very much NY, but, from what I've seen (and heard on this forum), Lindsay is a fairly dull character who shows very little emotion. Just the fact that TPTB had to write such an OOC storyline just to accommodate her character's needs makes her the weak link to me.

As to Miami, I used to watch it. I really liked Ryan, Eric, Calleigh and Alexx, and, in part, Natalia and, from the little I've seen of him, Speedle. Then the cheesiness of Super-H and his sunglasses of justice came to simply outweigh all positive elements of the show.

I felt like GSR made Sara somewhat of a weak link, but she was never my least favorite character. To me, Hodges is the number one weak link on Vegas. His snarky humor is good in small doses, but I cannot for the life of me understand why he was made a main cast member. It feels like TPTB just assumed that he would fit some formula of the humorous lab rat in the way that Adam does on NY and that Greg used to do on Vegas, but Hodges really doesn't fit that role at all, IMO. He has a drastically different personality than those two lab rats.

Also, I think that Doc Robbins has become somewhat of a weak link just because he's so under-utilized. I think SuperDave has taken on a lot of the personality and scenes that he would have otherwise occupied.

Prior to S9, I think Warrick was the weak link because he seemed like the most criminally undeveloped. In S1, it felt like he had the most potential to become the most intriguing, complex character, but it felt like TPTB just dropped the ball on him, especially in later seasons.
 
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This is just my opinion, but the weak links are Ecklie and Sara.

Ecklie, because when he was around, nothing ever got done around the lab. Not to mention the fact that he was a weak character right from the start, and that isn't the type we need on a show like CSI.

Like most of you have already said, Sara's character was good for seasons 1-3 and around half of 4, but somewhere in the second half of season 4, her character went downhill. My own personal theory on what happened to her character is that she got too attached to Gil, and that affected her in more ways than one.
 
I only watch one CSI and that's Vegas.

I really enjoyed Sara Sidle for the first few seasons, but then around four she really started to get on my nerves. The promotion storyline really bothered me because of how she was so rude to Nick after he got the promotion-which was cancelled anyways.

To me that just seemed sort of petty, she took it so personally and because she couldn't lash out at Grissom, she decided to take it out on Nick because he was an easier target given their levels. To me it reaked of something that would come out of Beverly Hills 90210 and as a woman, it made us all look bad. It should have been written as Sara taking her lumps in stride.

I guess I'm not a fan of watching women pine away for a man, and for it to be Sara Sidle who in the beginning epitomized the ultimate career girl in a male-dominated profession, it was beneath her.

I kind of wish TPTB had taken the character in a different direction.

I also don't really blame GSR because it was a storyline that had been planned from day one and they were going to see it through no matter what. However, what I didn't like was how the way it came across the screen with Grissom being Sara's knight saving her from her demons.

And GSR to me was a weak link because well for starters, we rarely saw Sara working with the others again. One of my favourite scenes from season seven was the coup d'etat meeting Nick held outside the lab. I was so happy to see Sara interacting with her team mates again, she seemed like the Sara I loved from seasons 1 to 3.

But she's gone now, hopefully they won't take us down that road again with Riley or any other female character. Women don't need men to save them. That went out with the Brothers Grimm.
 
Honestly, I think the main weak link in all three shows, at least Vegas and NY, is continuity. How many people's pasts have been retconned to fit storylines?

Originally, IIRC, Catherine was from Bozeman, Montana, and her mom worked waitressing and showgirl jobs up the west coast. In a first season episode she alludes to having been in Vegas for 20 years. Then, sometime around season 3/4 it was changed to she was originally from Vegas, with Sam Braun being her father. In season 7, she even tells Keppler that it's "My Hometown."

Then, Greg is supposed to be Norwegian on his mother's side, with his mother's maiden name being "Hojem," and his maternal grandfather "Papa Olaf" being kicked out of Norway for getting his grandmother pregnant before they were married, then in Season 4, "Butterflied," he's talking about Papa Olaf taking Propecia, and needing help for ED, but not having to worry, because Male Pattern Baldness being passed from the mother's side of the family.

There's been other minor things, a few to do with Nick, Greg, Warrick, etc, but that's the one that stands out the most.

Then, in NY, I don't even want to start on all the continuity errors and things that have been dropped, never to be heard from again. *cough* Louie *cough* Ditto on the retconning of people's pasts.

Other than that, in Vegas, I don't think that Sara Sidle was necissarily a weak link. Yes, I'm ambivalent about GSR, simply because all of Sara's problems seemed to magically disappear when she hooked up with Grissom, and we never really got to see her work much with anyone else again.

Her character wasn't all that strong of a person, IMO. She had a tendency to get involved personally in the cases, she could be childish, judgmental, and abrasive, and she didn't do "I'm wrong" very well at all, but that's the way her character was written, and she played it well.

Lindsay Monroe, on the other hand, is a trainwreck. After nearly 4 years on the show, I'm not sure exactly WHAT she's supposed to be. Is she supposed to be nasty, is she supposed to be a perpetual love interest/foil for Danny, or what. I liked her at the beginning, when she showed some spunk and fire, tackling suspects and going after Danny with will, but after the third season and her dark secret storyline, she just falls flat, and comes across as someone with a nasty case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The fact that Mac and Stella have ripped practically every other character under them a new one at some point, for some very minor screw ups, and she's done major goofs, like leaving evidence out in the lab while it's up for reacreditation, and not had to face the consequences, is just so unrealistic to me.

I definitely think the fact that everything has to be adapted to suit her, for seemingly no apparent reason, makes Lindsay Monroe the weakest link in all three series.
 
myfuturecsi said:
I only watch one CSI and that's Vegas.

I really enjoyed Sara Sidle for the first few seasons, but then around four she really started to get on my nerves. The promotion storyline really bothered me because of how she was so rude to Nick after he got the promotion-which was cancelled anyways.

To me that just seemed sort of petty, she took it so personally and because she couldn't lash out at Grissom, she decided to take it out on Nick because he was an easier target given their levels. To me it reaked of something that would come out of Beverly Hills 90210 and as a woman, it made us all look bad. It should have been written as Sara taking her lumps in stride.

I guess I'm not a fan of watching women pine away for a man, and for it to be Sara Sidle who in the beginning epitomized the ultimate career girl in a male-dominated profession, it was beneath her.

I kind of wish TPTB had taken the character in a different direction.

I also don't really blame GSR because it was a storyline that had been planned from day one and they were going to see it through no matter what. However, what I didn't like was how the way it came across the screen with Grissom being Sara's knight saving her from her demons.

And GSR to me was a weak link because well for starters, we rarely saw Sara working with the others again. One of my favourite scenes from season seven was the coup d'etat meeting Nick held outside the lab. I was so happy to see Sara interacting with her team mates again, she seemed like the Sara I loved from seasons 1 to 3.

But she's gone now, hopefully they won't take us down that road again with Riley or any other female character. Women don't need men to save them. That went out with the Brothers Grimm.
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What should I say??? You're absolutely right :thumbsup: Man I really hated her sometimes just for being like she was... not in the early seasons but mid-season 4 she had this stupid career-thinking thing going on... that was just annoying and not good for the team...

It seemed like she just don't wanted to be part of the team anymore and because of GSR we really didn't had the chance to see her with the other team-members again...

Her behaviour just made me love Catherine more :) She don't needs stupid attitudes to be well respected and successful in her job. She can kick other guy's butts so hard that nobody would ever loose respect towards her.

Sara was somehow like a little girl who wants that very expensive doll which is sitting in the shop window, even mom says 'No'... and that with such a very sad twist of her character... that really sucks... not to mention her damn childish behaviour towards Nick after he got/nearly got that promotion...
 
myfuturecsi said:
But she's gone now, hopefully they won't take us down that road again with Riley or any other female character. Women don't need men to save them. That went out with the Brothers Grimm.
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Amen! I feel like the woman-in-need-of-saving-by-handsome-male-CSI is a perpetual weak link throughout the franchise. In general, I think Vegas and NY do a decent job of avoiding that, but Miami, on the other hand...

I really disliked how every other pretty woman on CSI:Miami (as well as every other child) needed Horatio to come to his or her rescue. It got really old really fast and was one of the biggest reasons that I've basically stopped watching Miami. I thought it spoke volumes for the difference between Miami and Vegas when, in Disarmed and Dangerous, it was three underdogs, including one woman, at a halfway house who basically busted the sex slave operation, rather than in Miami, where Horatio Caine comes out in bright lights as a hero assuring every PYT that 'everything's gonna be alright now. I'll make sure you're safe'. It screams over and over again that every attractive young woman needs a strong man to come save them, which is just ridiculous. All I can think is 'thank goodness for Calleigh, Natalia and Alexx for offsetting that at least a little.

On that note, to stay more on-topic, I think that that general plotline made Horatio a weak link on Miami. He will always be my least favorite character on Miami and I really dislike the tone he sets in general. To me, he represents everything that much of the world has come to dislike about the U.S. -- an often-pre-emptive, extrajudicial and paternalistic superhero who needs to rescue all of the attractive victims who are being tyranized by oppressive, chauvinistic and often foreign male figures. (Though maybe the hardcore Dem in me is just reading too much into this.) Seriously, when was the last time Horatio rescued a woman who didn't look like she belonged on the cover of Vogue? I don't mean to rant, but this topic really gets to me. I absolutely despise everything that reenforces the stereotype that all attractive young women need strong men to look out for and protect them.

On Vegas, I feel like they avoided that prototype, but I can still see elements of it in later-seasons Sara and her relationship with Grissom. I loved how, at first, it seemed like she had come out to Vegas as an equal that challenged him, which was is one of the things I've liked about GSR. I definitely think it hurt her character and made her a potential weak link when she lost that edge.
 
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