Season 12 Spoiler Lab Discussion Part 2
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Brute
I put them in here because it went with my argument. :lol: :lol:
PerfectAnomaly
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With 6 siblings I am sure he has a ton of nieces and nephews to know how to handle them.
I have 5 siblings and 10 nieces and nephews and I don't come close to relating to them in the same way as their parents do. Knowing "how to handle" kids is not the same as having kids of your own and having experience in relating to them on a close level.
I don't know what to think about that... I mean... I really liked D.B. in the first episode and would hate to see him become the new Mr. Perfect and know-it-all of the show. I would also dislike it if he starts to overshadow the qualities of our beloved characters we learned to love over the years. I just hope they don't forget about them... like Speedy said Nick is definitly able to deal with kids... we have seen it over the past years. Of course D.B. is too... he is a father but it really would suck if they took those moments away from Nick just to give them to D.B., the new guy.
Of course D.B. needs to introduced and has to get his moments to make us know how he ticks but introducing shouldn't mean "work his magic" all the time. It also shouldn't mean finding the solution to a problem all the time while other team members don't know what to do.
I know I'm propably just black marking things but after everything that happened over the past years, I'm not that positive about things anymore. I just hope it turns out okay and I'm wrong
Of course D.B. needs to introduced and has to get his moments to make us know how he ticks but introducing shouldn't mean "work his magic" all the time. It also shouldn't mean finding the solution to a problem all the time while other team members don't know what to do.
I know I'm propably just black marking things but after everything that happened over the past years, I'm not that positive about things anymore. I just hope it turns out okay and I'm wrong
I agree, PA. It all seems and feels very natural to me for someone who is a father to be able to connect to kids... especially if all or most of his four kids are boys. He is only connecting to kids who are boys so far.
Nick is the resident kid-whisperer, but usually its for kids that are GIRLS. Cassie and Hailey (that was Taylor's character, right?) and a couple of infants who were female. I think its because he has natural charm and girls are able to better connect with him than boys.
I don't mind them making 'catch-up' with the character of DB (if it bothers me I'll ignore him just like I pretty much ignored Ray Langston!). What I'm worried about is that while they play catch-up with DB, Marg is at this point, set to leave in January and I don't want them for forget about the already established character traits of the others in favor of DB.
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Susan
I have 1 neice and 1 nephew. Nobody, including her parents understands my neice. I understand my nephew better than anybody especially his parents. It all depends on how much effort the parent puts into understanding the kid.
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PerfectAnomaly
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I don't mind them making 'catch-up' with the character of DB (if it bothers me I'll ignore him just like I pretty much ignored Ray Langston!). What I'm worried about is that while they play catch-up with DB, Marg is at this point, set to leave in January and I don't want them for forget about the already established character traits of the others in favor of DB.
I have 1 neice and 1 nephew. Nobody, including her parents understands my neice. I understand my nephew better than anybody especially his parents. It all depends on how much effort the parent puts into understanding the kid.
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Susan
Obviously not every parent "understands" their kids or is a good parent - not that not "understanding" a kid makes someone a bad parent - but if they want to portray DB as a good parent then it would make sense for him to have a better understanding of how to get young children to talk than someone who doesn't have kids. At least IMO.
Speedystokesgirl
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With 6 siblings I am sure he has a ton of nieces and nephews to know how to handle them.
I have 5 siblings and 10 nieces and nephews and I don't come close to relating to them in the same way as their parents do. Knowing "how to handle" kids is not the same as having kids of your own and having experience in relating to them on a close level.
That isn't actual true. There are many parents out there that can't relate to kids or know how to handle them.
You don't have to have kids to know how to relate to or handle them.
However, yes, D.B. is a good father, but that doesn't necessarily equate to him being able to handle every kid, either.
Brass could just as easily do that and he's shown he can, too.GNRF, don't forget Conner. Nick interacted with very well and will always be two of my favorite scenes. :thumbsup:
PerfectAnomaly
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With 6 siblings I am sure he has a ton of nieces and nephews to know how to handle them.
I have 5 siblings and 10 nieces and nephews and I don't come close to relating to them in the same way as their parents do. Knowing "how to handle" kids is not the same as having kids of your own and having experience in relating to them on a close level.
That isn't actual true. There are many parents out there that can't relate to kids or know how to handle them.
You don't have to have kids to know how to relate to or handle them.
However, yes, D.B. is a good father, but that doesn't necessarily equate to him being able to handle every kid, either.
GNRF, don't forget Conner. Nick interacted with very well and will always be two of my favorite scenes. :thumbsup:
Two kids isn't "every kid" just like not all parents relate to their kids better than other people do.
ETA: All I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be surprising to people that a character with four kids would be portrayed at being very good at dealing with children.
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Can't we all just agree that there are people at the Crime Lab who can handle kids well? Is it really that big of an issue?
Speedystokesgirl
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That isn't actual true. There are many parents out there that can't relate to kids or know how to handle them.
You don't have to have kids to know how to relate to or handle them.
However, yes, D.B. is a good father, but that doesn't necessarily equate to him being able to handle every kid, either.
GNRF, don't forget Conner. Nick interacted with very well and will always be two of my favorite scenes. :thumbsup:
Two kids isn't "every kid" just like not all parents relate to their kids better than other people do.
ETA: All I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't be surprising to people that a character with four kids would be portrayed at being very good at dealing with children.
I don't think anyone of us is surprised by D.B. being good with kids. All I said was to ptb that Nick is the resident 'kid whisperer' and to knock it off with Russell. Don't know how that equates to me saying that Russell isn't good with kids.
In any case, I'm a Nick fan and I like him dealing with the kids.
PerfectAnomaly
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I personally think there's more than enough room for more than one character to be good with kids, but obviously it's a YMMV scenario for some.
Speedystokesgirl
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Yes and Yes.
vegaslights
Brute
Usually I have my reservations, but since you're asking... :lol:
I'm honestly perfectly fine with DB's interactions with kids. It FITS the character. DB came in as a seasoned professional with many years of experience and a family. The problem with Langston was that he came in as a newbie and within the span of several episodes rapidly learned every which way about forensics and crime investigations. It didn't work.
AndreaMarkham
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Yes, I would agree about Langston. He was more of a renagade who didn't quite fit in with the rest of the crew. I didn't really enjoy his entry and am hoping DB will fly in the spot. Totally different then Grissom as well. It looks to be an interesting season.
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