Original writers?
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C.H.E.A.R.
Pathologist
Go and search in the episode guide at trhe top of the page....unfortunaely they were the best the show's ever had and they're probably mostly gone by now
In case you haven't gone to the episode guides yet (or if some are curious), just wanted to give a relatively small breakdown of some of the prominent ones from yesteryear. :lol:
Ann Donahue
Liz Divine
Steve Maeda
Corey Miller
Matt Witten
Ildy Modrovich
Marc Dube
John Haynes
If I recall, aside from the exec producers on the list, Marc Dube is pretty much the only one who has written some of the more recent episodes ('All Fall Down'). I really miss most of the ones above.
Ann Donahue
Liz Divine
Steve Maeda
Corey Miller
Matt Witten
Ildy Modrovich
Marc Dube
John Haynes
If I recall, aside from the exec producers on the list, Marc Dube is pretty much the only one who has written some of the more recent episodes ('All Fall Down'). I really miss most of the ones above.
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Jag Lady
Lab Technician
I agree. Those were the glory days!
Just out of curiosity, I did a search of writers and directors between Miami and Criminal Minds. I noticed something rather interesting.
We all know about Miami and its inconsistencies, dropped storylines, disappearing characters, etc., etc. At the same time, CM seems to be keeping everything fairly continuous, varied and consistent. Ends up CM has had pretty much the same writers who are familiar with the plots and characters, and I'm pretty sure CM is all they do. Miami, on the other hand, has had a round robin of writers and directors who don't always seem to know what's going on.
Just out of curiosity, I did a search of writers and directors between Miami and Criminal Minds. I noticed something rather interesting.
We all know about Miami and its inconsistencies, dropped storylines, disappearing characters, etc., etc. At the same time, CM seems to be keeping everything fairly continuous, varied and consistent. Ends up CM has had pretty much the same writers who are familiar with the plots and characters, and I'm pretty sure CM is all they do. Miami, on the other hand, has had a round robin of writers and directors who don't always seem to know what's going on.
daisymay
Police Officer
I've just had an indulgent few hours watching some of series 1. I'd forgotten how 'different' it is from recent stuff. The dialogue is so sharp. And H is so different. All right, 8 years or so have passed, and people change, but he seems much less self conscious (in its truest sense) of being the king of the crime lab. He's far more rude too, e.g. 'Look what the cat dragged in,' and 'you people couldn't find your ass with both hands'. Rather enjoyed it! I got the feeling the present writers are a bit too aware of his status, which has an effect of making him less 'human'. (This the most human guy you could think of.) All power to DC for keeping as much continuity as he can, considering he has to work with the lines he's given.
(Afraid this is wandering off-topic a bit.)
(Afraid this is wandering off-topic a bit.)
greatfan
Captain
Definitely agree.In addition to dropped story lines,etc,the characters don't even keep the traits that they started with.Even though the characters are the same,it's as if the writers are writing for a different chracter all together.
nwolfson22
Police Officer
This is such a great topic and conversation. I agree with the above points. I too was watching S1/S2 this past week/weekend and just watched some S7 last night...such a huge difference. I wish they had not done this round robin with the writers. I am kind of curious as to why this is being done, along with the directors, they come into Miami, direct a season, and then they are moved or leave the show.
I wish we had access to Ann D. to ask her these questions. It doesn't make any sense to me at least. How can you continue to produce a top quality show when everyone is always coming and going?
I wish we had access to Ann D. to ask her these questions. It doesn't make any sense to me at least. How can you continue to produce a top quality show when everyone is always coming and going?
Grissom rules
CSI Level Two
Ohhh I miss these old writers!They're much better than the ones in the show today.
greatfan
Captain
I think we all feel this way. I particularly dislike when a character's history or some trait of the character is changed to fit a story.If something about the character needs to be changed for a story, it's the story that needs some tweeking.The previous writers also didn't have everything so glamourized,crime took place in various neighborhoods,etc.
C.H.E.A.R.
Pathologist
Sigh, I loved Corey Miller soooo much, he's one of my favs. I miss him so much, I think he should pop in for a new episode of season 9, you know to help out writing it. He was so EC friendly, such a good writer....
daisymay
Police Officer
I've just realised one of the things I really dislike in the later stuff (still on Season 8 in the UK, of course), is the fact that they're actually making everyone interchangeable. However much individual screentime they get - another complaint of mine - there is no attempt at playing up individual skills. Interviewing suspects? Might be Frank, or Calleigh, or H... Or it might not. Various lab skills? Could be anyone who happens to be handy, or who needs an extra scene. Their worst sin, IMO, is not to let H anchor it. This week (#804), you wouldn't even know he's the boss. What a waste! In the older stuff, even in episodes I wasn't that keen on, this never seemed to happen. Particular skills, or even odd bits of peripheral knowledge, drifted in and out of the main plot completely naturally.
The other thing that really upsets me, even though it's trivial, is when the writers don't keep to the things that had become so routine over the years - I mean the 'shape' of an episode. It starts with a crime, then a shot of H, then (hopefully) a one-liner, shades on, and into the titles. And it ends with a shot of H, always, before the end credits. It's things like this that make it an old friend, and I think it's disrespectful, and unnecessary, to alter it.
The other thing that really upsets me, even though it's trivial, is when the writers don't keep to the things that had become so routine over the years - I mean the 'shape' of an episode. It starts with a crime, then a shot of H, then (hopefully) a one-liner, shades on, and into the titles. And it ends with a shot of H, always, before the end credits. It's things like this that make it an old friend, and I think it's disrespectful, and unnecessary, to alter it.
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