Mac #7--Once a Marine, Always a Marine

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I do enjoy miserable and distant (OT fact -I also like House a lot, and he can be a real SOB, LOL!). I like Mac's lighter side too, and how we've seen him warm up to the team. But he still maintains his distance from them at times. I think what you wrote about him in the spoilers discussion thread, about how he's reacting to the Flack situation, was really really interesting, and bang on about his character (are you sure you're not married to him, secretly?:lol:).

haha, no, i'd never marry anyone, even him!! but i do relate to him massively because i'm very contained as well emotionally. i often watch mac and it's a bit like looking in a strange (and much much better looking) mirror...

he was an officer in the Marines, and officers are supposed to look out for their people but also they have to remain distant to some extent and also they're expected to hold emotion in in times of stress. At least that's the impression I get from various military history/biographies I've read. Also, an important part of military training is being able to control emotion. I guess an important part of holding rank in the military is being able to control yourself as well.

yeah, i'd not thought of the military aspect which is a silly omission for me because i very nearly did my history dissertation on shell shock (in WWI) and that's all very closely tied in with the same things. the control of emotion in the military is a huge issue, and it's one i did a hell of a lot of ranting about during my degree:lol: but yes, i think you're absolutely right, he clearly does refer to his military training quite a lot (the most explicit example would be the "surgery" he did in COTP, but also in more subtle ways) and it must have a bearing on his emotional reactions as well. (edit, i just thought of this) this also came across really strongly in the flashback scenes - it was clear he was very "proper", calling his dad "sir" and sitting up straight and so on. that was a situation that calls for and would normally result in fairly open displays of emotion by most people (look at how stella reacted when prof p died, for instance), but he looked almost uptight, he didn't show very much emotion at all and was very contained. once a marine....


I think Mac is very much about control, especially of his emotions, and he feels he can only let his emotions out in certain circumstances.

Mac I think is very concious of boundary issues especially when it comes to people's personal lives-he told Quinn he doesn't get involved in his team's personal lives. So while he may be concerned about Flack and want to help him some how, I think he must be very concerned about intruding on his pain.

absolutely, i think that's spot on - some situations allow for a bit of venting, but the rest of the time he keeps it buttoned. and i think he's very aware of keeping work things at work and personal things separate, which probably makes him a lot more wary of treating his work colleagues as "friends" explicitly, by for instance getting involved in their personal problems (with the exception of stella, i think) - i think he's acutely aware, simultaneously, of (a) personal boundaries and (b) the boss-subordinate relationship - for instance he seems quite able to shout at a team member if they cock up (he yelled at danny a fair bit in the first 2 seasons) but i doubt he'd get so obviously invested in their emotional problems, unless they affected work, in which case he would have that justification for bringing it up, as their boss.

your entire post is basically why i relate to mac as a character!


I am also very interested to see what Mac does when he finds out Flack shot that creep who killed Angell. Some people here say Mac doesn't see gray areas, only black and white and that is true but it's not completely true, IMO. I think sometimes he does see gray areas, or at least recognize that everything isn't always completely black or white -

yeah i agree - when i read your post, the bit where they arrested the singer who had been stalked jumped straight into my head - especially as hawkes *told* her that without a confession they'd have nothing on her. i think if mac was so black and white he'd have bawled hawkes out for saying such a thing but, although he looked a bit tense, he let it slide, i think that was a definite show of appreciation of gray areas :)

I do enjoy miserable and distant (OT fact -I also like House a lot, and he can be a real SOB, LOL!).

as for that, i find it hard to see hugh laurie as house, even now - i can't dissociate his bumbling, very british humour of the likes of jeeves & wooster, blackadder, fry & laurie etc from him, so seeing him as house is really weird for me. i had dinner with him (i was 9, i don't remember much about it!) and that makes it even harder - i guess i grew up with his persona as it's been for a long time in britain, and seeing him as a deeply cynical american doesn't quite sit right with me! [/ot]
 
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On the other hand there's not much things that I could critize Mac. It's good to got a remind he's a human and he can be and IS wrong sometimes! ;)

my thoughts exactly. i love this personal episodes because we get to see a different and rare side of mac taylor. he's human, after all... and he has his wounds. i just love having the opportunity to witness that.
I agree' those personal episodes with Mac are amazing. Gary really gets into character then and you can just feel the tension/pain/misery/happiness etc coming from the screen. I literally cried during the last episode, especially the last ten minutes. We really learned a lot about Mac in that episode, now I feel more connected to him >.<
 
some spoiler pics of Mac

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god, michmac! thank you so much for those pics!!! :D makes me wonder how the heck this guy manages to just keep getting hotter and hotter! :drool:


I agree' those personal episodes with Mac are amazing. Gary really gets into character then and you can just feel the tension/pain/misery/happiness etc coming from the screen. I literally cried during the last episode, especially the last ten minutes. We really learned a lot about Mac in that episode, now I feel more connected to him >.<

i totally get your point! i love it when the writers (in general, not only in csi ny) shows deeper captures of the characters. in mac's case, specially in this last episode, we get to see (at least some of) the reasons behind him being so closed. i mean, aren't we all like that sometimes?! we tend to become less open-hearted through life. i just loved it. so, evildemonchic (nice nickname btw ;D), i think we get to feel more connected because he got to be more.... human. at least, that's how it happened to me when i saw mac's eyes so full of tears in the end of this episode.
 
It was a 'dark' ep last night, not much chance of getting great caps. :shifty:
So I worked with my photoshop, hope you enjoys :lol:
Ok, I'm gonna leave our lovely detective Taylor in your capable hands for the next 2 weeks. I trust my Nats (currently Dracbatty, what was she thinking) Nat my chipmunk, get out off hiding. :p:p:p

 
JOOLS!!!!!!!!! :eek::drool::drool::drool::eek: My vicked, vicked friend! Are you trying to kill me with these pics again?!? :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:

Thanks so much! *hugs* :thumbsup:

Mac looks tired...:(:(:(

Hmm...Is it just me or the makeup...or does his wrinkles show much more than before??? :wtf: I know Gary doesn't look "that" old!!! :alienblush: I've wondered that since the last weeks ep.

My friend noticed that too! :rolleyes: And she doesn't even follow CSI:NY that much! :lol: She thought that they wanted to made "current" Mac more older looking since there was a flashback...but I doubt it...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Maybe it was just lightling and thick makeup....or it was "intentional!" :vulcan:

Here's two pics I wanna show about this thing. :) I know this may sound
a bit picky but I my Friday evening is boring so it's common for me that I start to pay attension to the details no matter what the thing is! :lol:

This one is from 6.01 and the second is from 6.02. ;)

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Maybe this means REALLY that our fav. detective is having a tough time...:(:(:( He needs some loving ladies! :devil::devil::devil: Any volunteers??? :guffaw:
 
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CSISENNA, WOW! Thanks for the nice picture und the hard Work with Photoshop.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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yes thank you for the very nice pictures of mac. i agree with you too that he does look a little more tired in the last few episodes.
 
wow he does look tired in that last episode, I didn't notice it since I was too busy drooling over him :lol: Could be the whole mess from last season is finally hitting him and he needs comfort *steps up in line and grins*
 
Happy weekend to all!

nel; Thanks for the link, :thumbsup: I just hope it works in my sloooow web connection! :rolleyes: Otherwise I'd have to wait till Monday!!! :scream:

wow he does look tired in that last episode, I didn't notice it since I was too busy drooling over him :lol: Could be the whole mess from last season is finally hitting him and he needs comfort *steps up in line and grins*

Yeah I had that same thing as you, I didn't notice it until I had watched those pics at least ten times! :lol: I agree with you that must be a consequence from the last season's happenings :( Every man has its braking point I think this is or atleast it close to be his.:( I just hope he doesn't keep it to himself like he use to, but talks to someone, like Stella. ;)

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:(:(:( He needs some loving ladies! :devil::devil::devil: Any volunteers??? :guffaw:

MEEE!!!!!!! MEEEEEEEE!!!! *raises hand, desperately* :D:D:D
We need a line! :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:But atleast since we are having such enthusiastic volunteers he must be feeling better sooner we realize! :D

Count me on ladies!!!! :lol: *runs ashamed for being late!!!* :brickwall:

Thumps up that we will soon see something like this:
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THIS IS the Mac Taylor I wanna see! :adore::adore::adore:
 
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Oh Sam, I can understand you. I need it also to the weekend. Have a nice weekend!

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someone just suggested to me that csi:ny should be done with cats instead of people. i hereby offer my cat to be the cat-mac taylor. that way i could take the real mac taylor home with me as a kind of swap experiment. i like this idea :D [/has too much time on her hands]
 
Lisa: Just a thought of cats..." tomcat-Taylor" :devil::devil::devil:
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Thanks for savin' my day! :thumbsup:

I have some spoiler pics. Others might be the same but...:angel:

and then this...click! :lol:
 
Oh my god!!! Thank you sooooo much!!! Those serious facial impressions of him are just....:drool:! I'm really looking forward to see him in action, looks so sexy!! Thank you, thank you, thank you
 
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