Horatio & Yelina Thread #4 ~The Romantic Real Deal~
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Lovely lyrics Tally. I think I know what site I'll be heading for later!
Thanks for posting them. They really are about as H/Y as you can get.
Lovely lyrics Tally. I think I know what site I'll be heading for later!
Thanks for posting them. They really are about as H/Y as you can get.Yes, no question about it. Even though I have been very critical of how the H/Y storyarc has been handled, I still believe that we will be rewarded one day.
ment_to_be
Hit and Run
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I agree that Horatio needs to protect someone and he's weak around Yelina BUT :
The person he needs to protect doesn't have to be the one he loves. He married, Marrisol, a very weak woman,he needed to take care of, but since when is protecting someone the same as loving someone?
He always will be able to protect other persons, he's a CSi, every epi he saves a child, a woman or a whole family.
I don't think he needs to come home,and start to help the woman he loves. Like I said it happened that way with Marisol, but I never felt the love between them. When H talks to Y you can feel the chemistry between them, they really love eachother.
All this just to say:
I can't see a reason why they can't be together
I agree that Horatio needs to protect someone and he's weak around Yelina BUT :
The person he needs to protect doesn't have to be the one he loves. He married, Marrisol, a very weak woman,he needed to take care of, but since when is protecting someone the same as loving someone?
He always will be able to protect other persons, he's a CSi, every epi he saves a child, a woman or a whole family.
I don't think he needs to come home,and start to help the woman he loves. Like I said it happened that way with Marisol, but I never felt the love between them. When H talks to Y you can feel the chemistry between them, they really love eachother.
I also agree Horatio gets weak when Yelina enters the room, but it's not a kind of "looser-weakness", it's a "Lover-weakness" Doesn't everyone melt a bit when he is around the one he loves?
I don't think he doesn't know what to say to her but he just wants to say the perfect words. And he has to be carefull, 'cause he can't always say what he actually wants to say(always out of honour for his brother not because he hasn't got the guts). According to me all of this aren't a proof of his weakness but of his strength! He's strong enough to controle himself.
All this just to say:
I can't see a reason why they can't be together
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Oh the complexities of the H/Y relationship! Even when Ray was 'dead', H was reluctant to make the first move. His misguided sense of guilt and partiality to making self-sacrificial choices always kept him from revealing his true feelings. Then of course, he pushed Yelina away by allowing her to think Madison was his daughter to save her from further hurt and anguish.
Now that Ray is really dead, both H and Y will have to go through their own grieving process and reconnect on a different level. That just may take time. It would appear that this is the current tack the writers are taking.
Oh the complexities of the H/Y relationship! Even when Ray was 'dead', H was reluctant to make the first move. His misguided sense of guilt and partiality to making self-sacrificial choices always kept him from revealing his true feelings. Then of course, he pushed Yelina away by allowing her to think Madison was his daughter to save her from further hurt and anguish.
Now that Ray is really dead, both H and Y will have to go through their own grieving process and reconnect on a different level. That just may take time. It would appear that this is the current tack the writers are taking.
inge
CSI Level Two
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Hi!! *waves shyly* I'm still there and I still support them, but sometimes it's hard to write a good post.
Horatio and Yelina are both strong characters, but I think they allow around each other more to show their vulnerable side. I agree that Horatio is attracted to strong woman and Yelina needs a man who understands and supports her independence. She was too strong and independent for Stetler and I think this is why he hurt her. She isn't a woman who submits to anyone and least of all to a man.
IMO if ray hadn't fake his death sooner or later she would have handed in a divorce.
and Horatio understands her and balances her out.
of course I can see them fighting too. As some of you've already written, Horatio loves to protect people. Yelina doesn't want to be protected all the time. maybe this can cause problems.
Hi!! *waves shyly* I'm still there and I still support them, but sometimes it's hard to write a good post.
Horatio and Yelina are both strong characters, but I think they allow around each other more to show their vulnerable side. I agree that Horatio is attracted to strong woman and Yelina needs a man who understands and supports her independence. She was too strong and independent for Stetler and I think this is why he hurt her. She isn't a woman who submits to anyone and least of all to a man.
IMO if ray hadn't fake his death sooner or later she would have handed in a divorce.
and Horatio understands her and balances her out.
of course I can see them fighting too. As some of you've already written, Horatio loves to protect people. Yelina doesn't want to be protected all the time. maybe this can cause problems.
SwanSwan_H
Police Officer
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Or, at least, just watch the episodes that relate to Yelina, which is what I am considering doing as the show does little for me right now.
The criticism has been more than justified. I don't really trust these writers anymore, but I think in time, we may well get to see H/Y have their chance of happiness together. Just a feeling I have. I am convinced this isn't a storyarc they will drop; the burning question is, will the writers end up doing it justice? Stay tuned for the next 3 years folks!Even though I have been very critical of how the H/Y storyarc has been handled, I still believe that we will be rewarded one day.
Or, at least, just watch the episodes that relate to Yelina, which is what I am considering doing as the show does little for me right now.
MiamiDade
Pathologist
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My sentiments too! When there are any significant developments regarding Yelina, I shall watch with interest, though maybe not with an abundance of hope for the near future. Until then, I shall keep half an eye on it, just in case. In the meantime, other shows are infinitely more rewarding.
As for H, he was indeed 'weak' in Season 4 - without Yelina! His character's substance seemed to evaporate with her departure.
My sentiments too!
When there are any significant developments regarding Yelina, I shall watch with interest, though maybe not with an abundance of hope for the near future. Until then, I shall keep half an eye on it, just in case. In the meantime, other shows are infinitely more rewarding.As for H, he was indeed 'weak' in Season 4 - without Yelina! His character's substance seemed to evaporate with her departure.
CathStokes
Head of the Day Shift
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Hey Guys.
What was the name of the episode where H tells that guy (she went a date with or something) that she doesn't like Champagne?
Hey Guys.
What was the name of the episode where H tells that guy (she went a date with or something) that she doesn't like Champagne?
MiamiDade
Pathologist
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That would be the Season 2 finale 'Innocent'. Yelina is about to go on a long weekend with IAB Sgt Rick Stetler, who was introduced in the Season 2 premiere 'Blood Brothers'. H finds out that they are dating in 'The Oath'.
That would be the Season 2 finale 'Innocent'. Yelina is about to go on a long weekend with IAB Sgt Rick Stetler, who was introduced in the Season 2 premiere 'Blood Brothers'. H finds out that they are dating in 'The Oath'.
CathStokes
Head of the Day Shift
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oh, Thank you for the background, you rule at that!
I noticed how upset H looked when he found out, Poor H
MiamiDade said:
That would be the Season 2 finale 'Innocent'. Yelina is about to go on a long weekend with IAB Sgt Rick Stetler, who was introduced in the Season 2 premiere 'Blood Brothers'. H finds out that they are dating in 'The Oath'.
oh, Thank you for the background, you rule at that!
I noticed how upset H looked when he found out, Poor H
MiamiDade
Pathologist
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You're always welcome! Much of what I know I really have to thank the other H/Y veterans in here for. Someone in here will always help you. It really is the best thread for that. There really is alot of background on these two, all of it angsty (in a good way) and downright brilliant in the entertainment sense. That's what we miss so much and why we hope Yelina will be back soon. The show is so, so much better when she is on it! *sigh*
You're always welcome!
Much of what I know I really have to thank the other H/Y veterans in here for. Someone in here will always help you. It really is the best thread for that. There really is alot of background on these two, all of it angsty (in a good way) and downright brilliant in the entertainment sense. That's what we miss so much and why we hope Yelina will be back soon. The show is so, so much better when she is on it! *sigh*Re: Horatio & Yelina #4 ~'The Romantic Real Deal'~
*gasps* Yelina dates Stetler?!
Ohhhhhhhh
But this should make for some interesting viewing! *wonders will she get to see a jealous H*
The discussion on Yelina being H's equal on the previous page reminded me of the strange and unearthly Jane Eyre and the fiery, broody Mr Rochester, and that they are so good together because they are each other's equals. But yes, I totally agree with you guys on that point and why H and Y make such a great match
MiamiDade said:
That would be the Season 2 finale 'Innocent'. Yelina is about to go on a long weekend with IAB Sgt Rick Stetler, who was introduced in the Season 2 premiere 'Blood Brothers'. H finds out that they are dating in 'The Oath'.
*gasps* Yelina dates Stetler?!
Ohhhhhhhh
But this should make for some interesting viewing!
*wonders will she get to see a jealous H* The discussion on Yelina being H's equal on the previous page reminded me of the strange and unearthly Jane Eyre and the fiery, broody Mr Rochester, and that they are so good together because they are each other's equals. But yes, I totally agree with you guys on that point and why H and Y make such a great match
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This is yet another of Ann D's barriers that she erects between our two (Blood Brothers dvd audio commentary). Her list of barriers seems fairly lengthy and involved! We are still working our way through them. It's like a never ending army assault course.
Ooh, Jane Eyre and Mr Rochester? Now you are really appealing to my romantic tendencies. Jane Eyre rocks!
Aw, wibbs, are you okay there?*gasps* Yelina dates Stetler?!
Ohhhhhhhh
This is yet another of Ann D's barriers that she erects between our two (Blood Brothers dvd audio commentary). Her list of barriers seems fairly lengthy and involved! We are still working our way through them. It's like a never ending army assault course. Ooh, Jane Eyre and Mr Rochester? Now you are really appealing to my romantic tendencies. Jane Eyre rocks!
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