Ceindreadh
Pathologist
Given the way that most of the witnesses to the death seemed more interested in blogging and/or tweeting about it, I can't see that any of them were especially traumatized.
Grade 'Do or Die'
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Given the way that most of the witnesses to the death seemed more interested in blogging and/or tweeting about it, I can't see that any of them were especially traumatized.
Geeno
Pathologist
Good episode. Nice spin on the "Martian" soil. I was really curious ho they were going to explain that. I thought the spider guts looked like $#*! 
I laughed a bit when Jo without any icks scoop the crap out of the toilet. I even wonder if they were going to extract DNA out of 'he "poop"!
The case was simple. It was interesting and well written. Can't find any plot holes. I thought the teacher did it so I'm wrong. It's a plus.
I didn't mind the D/L scenes. The ass print made me :lol: Nice continuity on Lindsay's horrific past. I thought it was the new writer's way of saying "I'm may be the newbie here but hey, I know how continuity works." Take that PV!
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I laughed a bit when Jo without any icks scoop the crap out of the toilet. I even wonder if they were going to extract DNA out of 'he "poop"!The case was simple. It was interesting and well written. Can't find any plot holes. I thought the teacher did it so I'm wrong. It's a plus.
I didn't mind the D/L scenes. The ass print made me :lol: Nice continuity on Lindsay's horrific past. I thought it was the new writer's way of saying "I'm may be the newbie here but hey, I know how continuity works." Take that PV!
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It might've been a feeble nod to continuity, but it was like shoving a kielbasa into the casing for a cocktail weenie--awkward and wholly inappropriate. None of the kids at the scene was shocked or traumatized. As Flack noted, it was the digital grapevine in full effect, and they were jockeying to see who could get the goriest shot. "Yo, some chick croaked," and "The popo are everywhere," are not the anguished cries of traumatized bystanders. It was a cheesy, ham-fisted attempt to make Lindsay empathetic, and it utterly failed. It instead made her sound like a simpering, self-involved twit who thinks the world exists only through the lens of her awareness.
Geeno
Pathologist
I thought it was appropriate. It was based on her own experience and we can't blame her if she still can't get over about the massacre she survived on. Plus they were just about to start the investigation so she didn't have any idea who the victim's friends were (and whether or not they were traumatized) and what really happened. Plus, it was only a scene. Lindsay wasn't even in the interrogation room to talk more about her traumatic experience. It was just a simple nod. It wasn't put in there to shift the episode's focus on her.
talkingtocactus
Coroner
my new favourite word
er so this ep. it was ok but nothing great. i was on skype with jade nolan at the time so these comments are lifted from what i said at the time (hurrah for chat history)
ok, first off: lindsay & danny at the scene. how the hell did they make lucy if it took them that long to work out that someone was having sex?! holy crap a 13 year old could do better. it was boggling...
it kind of baffled me that mr teenage porn said "don't tell my parents! i'm going to be expelled" - er, mate, if you get expelled, chances are your parents already know...
i decided, about half way through that emmy (who was almost exactly like me at school btw so i totally related to her) either had a thing for, or was having a thing with, the girl that got killed. but no, gay people don't exist in cbs' version of new york so it was her geeky friend instead. it's a shame as i think that would've been a much better twist to the otherwise predictable storyline.
mac was lovely, obviously. jo was good too and i liked adam's stuff, especially when he was talking to jo about martians and was just going off to look into it more, spotted mac coming down the hall, and ran away :lol: and when he hacked into mac's computer
i liked mac discovering the cheating bottle, and even more so when lindsay said something and he corrected her. way to whup lindsay at the quiz mac
as for the lindsay flashback. on one hand i was like "YAY continuity!!!!!!!!!" but on the other? "make it stop!!!!"
what bugged me even more than lindsay this week (who knew that was possible!?) was hawkes. dear god is that man capable of opening his mouth without a sermon coming out? (or, if you follow his twitter feed, is he capable of moving his hands without a sermon coming out? i don't think this is the character so much as the actor) and he looks so damn smug all the time. ARGH!
i did like baffled mac tho, gary does baffled very well
er, i think it'll be a middling ish kinda grade. the fact i had to bring up conversation history to work out what i thought of it isn't exactly great. but then again i didn't hate it. so, what, C- ?
I don't really care if Lindsay gets over her trauma or not since it only surfaces when they need to get her empathy points, but projecting her unresolved issues onto people who clearly couldn't give a shit was ludicrous. No one was crying or in shock. In fact, the entire scene had a freakshow, carnivalesque atmosphere.
And yes, by inserting those flashback clips of Lindsay's teenage woe into the scene, they were attempting to establish a connection between her and the case that never went anywhere. "Oh, look, Lindsay is an expert in Teh Trauma because she is a survivor." Except there were no survivors, and the bystanders were evincing no trauma. "Uh, quick, engage Flack snark to deflect from our shoddy scene construction."
Flack: FLAWLESS VICTORY ~should be allowed to walk around without pants for the rest of the season.~
*NickStone*
Hit and Run
A+ For this one. Thought it was another really good episode with a pretty interesting case, just as so many have been this year, which as I've said before is really great to see. I like how the cases have gone back to being really realistic again this year, instead of the sort of ott far fetched high tech weapons we saw like "The Triangle". Those got to the point that they were making the show a bit unbelievable and silly a times. Season 7, has seen a real return to form in that regard, people have been killed/attacked with conventional weapons and in conventional ways, in every day crime scenes. A murder in a private school is just another example, so that's really appreciated.
Lots of Lindsay again, that's always going to give an episode high points for me, I love the character and really enjoy her slightly quirkier scenes of which she had a couple here. The scene with Danny in the library was really funny, nice to see them working together in the field. And am I the only one, because of the setting, got thinking that Lindsay/Anna would look good in a school-girl outfit? Er...Yeah, I Think I probably am.. :devil:
Anyway, moving on. I was a little disappointed that the bullying victim was the guilty party and did it out of jealousy, seemed just a little cliched.. But over all, not too bad.
Nice A+ Again. Good Stuff.
Lots of Lindsay again, that's always going to give an episode high points for me, I love the character and really enjoy her slightly quirkier scenes of which she had a couple here. The scene with Danny in the library was really funny, nice to see them working together in the field. And am I the only one, because of the setting, got thinking that Lindsay/Anna would look good in a school-girl outfit? Er...Yeah, I Think I probably am.. :devil:
Anyway, moving on. I was a little disappointed that the bullying victim was the guilty party and did it out of jealousy, seemed just a little cliched.. But over all, not too bad.
Nice A+ Again. Good Stuff.
Ceindreadh
Pathologist
A bit of fridge logic here. So they discover that the bullied girl was definitely at the murder scene, right about the time the murder happened...and they just leave it at that? They don't investigate her further, see if maybe she'd had a motive? Why ignore her for most of the episode until picking her up at the end? (or did I miss something?)
Desertwind
Head of the Day Shift
You said it all, I totally agree with your comments. I loved it, and I too love Lindsay. The whole ep. was riveting, on the "who done it":thumbsup:
Jade_Nolan
CSI Level One
What can I say.... thank god for Mac (who was pure *meltiness* :adore: ), Adam and Jo who mitigated the horrendousness that was D/L..! particularly Lindsey... :shifty: If it hadn't been for the above trio and that I was skyping with talkingtocactus at the time, i think i would've gouged my eyes and ears out with those two. Honestly, i firmly believe that Lucy was a complete fluke and all they did was snuggle in 'Snow Day'...!!! The PERFECT duo for that 'ass-print' scene would've been Flack and Danny. I mean, come on! Flack saying, "Is that an ass print?" with the subsequent illustration on the table between the pair?! It would've been nearly the best thing ever in the entire series! I wouldn't have been able to breath for laughing!!! :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
And i actually cheered when Mac so neatly and somewhat smugly corrected Lindsey on Cold War history! :lol:
The 'Martian' scene with Adam and Jo was priceless! I was laughing SO hard, and not just because of classic, nervous Adam, but because of the completely unexpected Mars and Martian element and the way Jo played off it :lol: Adam and Mac interactions have always been some of my most favorite scenes ever, and the dry humouring way Jo deals with Adam and his nervous respect of Mac just makes it that much funnier! :guffaw: And then Adam's sneaky triumph when he hacked into Mac's computer was awesome :lol:
Plot-wise, i was disappointed the killer turned out to be Emmy. Although i loved her final statement, "I regret killing Olivia. I do. What I don't regret, is standing up for my best friend." She wouldn't have killed Olivia just for herself, otherwise she probably would've done so already. But the feeling of righteous indignation over a best friend who's getting taken advantage, and regretting an act but not the motive, i can completely empathize with.
Mac/Gary was utterly adorable in this ep, and i my brain was completely melted into little puddles of goo before it was over. He had brought a soft quality to Mac this week that reminded me of some of his earlier roles. :adore::adore:
So overall, not bad. Not especially stellar, and i do have to imagine Flack and Danny in the school library (they seriously passed up a GEM of an opportunity with that one :lol: ) to get through that scene, but not bad. Mac, Adam and Jo salvaging the nails-on-chalkboard that is D/L (well, Lindsey particularly....)
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The PERFECT duo for that 'ass-print' scene would've been Flack and Danny. I mean, come on! Flack saying, "Is that an ass print?" with the subsequent illustration on the table between the pair?! It would've been nearly the best thing ever in the entire series! I wouldn't have been able to breath for laughing!!! :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw: And i actually cheered when Mac so neatly and somewhat smugly corrected Lindsey on Cold War history! :lol:
The 'Martian' scene with Adam and Jo was priceless! I was laughing SO hard, and not just because of classic, nervous Adam, but because of the completely unexpected Mars and Martian element and the way Jo played off it :lol: Adam and Mac interactions have always been some of my most favorite scenes ever, and the dry humouring way Jo deals with Adam and his nervous respect of Mac just makes it that much funnier! :guffaw: And then Adam's sneaky triumph when he hacked into Mac's computer was awesome :lol:
Plot-wise, i was disappointed the killer turned out to be Emmy. Although i loved her final statement, "I regret killing Olivia. I do. What I don't regret, is standing up for my best friend." She wouldn't have killed Olivia just for herself, otherwise she probably would've done so already. But the feeling of righteous indignation over a best friend who's getting taken advantage, and regretting an act but not the motive, i can completely empathize with.
Mac/Gary was utterly adorable in this ep, and i my brain was completely melted into little puddles of goo before it was over. He had brought a soft quality to Mac this week that reminded me of some of his earlier roles. :adore::adore:
So overall, not bad. Not especially stellar, and i do have to imagine Flack and Danny in the school library (they seriously passed up a GEM of an opportunity with that one :lol: ) to get through that scene, but not bad. Mac, Adam and Jo salvaging the nails-on-chalkboard that is D/L (well, Lindsey particularly....)
B-
Already the image of such a scene makes me laugh out loud :lol:. You are right, it would have been priceless especially if Flack threw in one of his sarcastic comments. Those two characters would have been perfect and you could have created a really humorous moment which Cahill/Giovinazzo always contribute whenever in a scene together. They probably would have ad-libbed some hilarious lines too as they did in season 4 episode "You Only Die Once."
Country233
Police Officer
Hmm, I hadn't thought of how that would've played out. Wish they had gone that route. Flack/Danny moments can be quite amusing.
talkingtocactus
Coroner
SO true!!:lol::lol::lol:
Fwuzzfwuzz
Hit and Run
Eh, C for me - the episode was okay but there was just a real mess of a story. It flowed in some parts and other parts just seemed so inconsequential. I felt like I was watching an episode of gossip girl.
I really like Jo, she seems to be the constant life of the party and even makes bad lines seems good (IE, the words of wisdom at the very end)
The scene with Danny and lindsey was okay, I was a bit indifferent to them. I have a hard time believing that a two man crew can tape a porno in the back of a library with no-one finding out.
What I REALLY don't understand is why in the world that guy was going to do pornography with a 17 year old girl?? It makes no sense, he was 18, she was 17 - why the consent form was even there when she is under age. Just so confusing, did they forget their Vic's age.
Anyways, Adam, as always is adorable. I love when he talks tech speak since I'm a computer nerd and totally love it!
I really like Jo, she seems to be the constant life of the party and even makes bad lines seems good (IE, the words of wisdom at the very end)
The scene with Danny and lindsey was okay, I was a bit indifferent to them. I have a hard time believing that a two man crew can tape a porno in the back of a library with no-one finding out.
What I REALLY don't understand is why in the world that guy was going to do pornography with a 17 year old girl?? It makes no sense, he was 18, she was 17 - why the consent form was even there when she is under age. Just so confusing, did they forget their Vic's age.
Anyways, Adam, as always is adorable. I love when he talks tech speak since I'm a computer nerd and totally love it!
Colonel Worf
Pathologist
C. Several good episodes this year, but this wasn't one of them.