Re: Season 8 Spoiler Discussion - There's Nothing You Can't Do In New
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:lol: Permanent TCSI lexicon.
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8.01 - "Indelible"
Back in a few...
eta: Here's what we know so far...
~ The episode features scenes that brings viewers to Mac's past. Mac meets up with a fire chief who also lost someone on 9/11. It appears Mac now works at a lab that tests DNA from 9/11. If you remember the ending of "Blink" this episode kind of goes there at the end.
Sounds ambitious, sounds interesting, sounds good.
Sounds like a sabbatical device enabling a 9/11 memorium episode earliest that then enables the rest of the season to unfold in a more typical fashion.
If it actually reaches Blink territory for various layers of quality, I'll be very pleased. Go for it NY, is all I can say. Better than not reaching atall.
~ Jo now has Mac's office.
:lol: Awesome. I hope she leaves it a right mess for him. And yeah, I assume he'll be back, and in charge, sooner rather than later.
(I can also only imagine the mess in a few other places where those seeking any avenue leading to Jo's departure might have suffered a few unexpected conniptions
)
~ ....but at the end of the investigation Jo, Danny, Lindsay (who shares a kiss with Danny), and Adam are the only ones working together.
Right. So glad that Danny's promotion has evidently really changed the status quo, for him, DL, and the team... :lol:
:censored: :lol:
Oh, DL. How can I possibly miss you if ya won't go away??
Here's a little bit more info....
~ Claire is in the episode, shown in flashbacks.
Bold. I like. Casting will be key.
Sounds like the whole ep will give GS a lot of material different from the norm to work with too. I like that as well.
~ Hannah is a potentially recurring character. She's a forensics technician who is book brilliant but a bit lacking in social skills.
Well, that's not vaguely reminiscent of previous efforts atall now is it :lol:
From Ask Ausiello:
Question: Do you have anything on CSI: NY? —Janie
Ausiello: The season premiere will mark the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy, which means it’s going to be an emotional episode for Mac who, as you know, lost his wife in the attacks. It doesn’t help matters that the new forensics tech Hannah — who’s book-smart but socially inept — starts hounding him with questions about his missus’ passing.
I predict this Hannah chick won't be overly popular. :shifty:
You're probably right :lol:
Still, I do think (okay, well, hope then :lol
that there's potential for her to fare better as a character than the likes of Haylen Becall, given how she'll be used predominantly to peel back/prompt Mac revelations.
(I think the idea of an ambitious clean up tech/forensic tech/FBI hire in Haylen was interesting, but somehow didn't translate with full success onscreen. I got the impression they weren't sure what to do with her once she achieved her agenda of being in the labs. Still, I'll forever remember her fondly if only for the classic phrase "curvature of lettuce"
).
As with Haylen, I get the feeling that the early ep(s) will again determine how long Hannah sticks around and whether or not she becomes recurring thru the whole season. I'm tempted to start a betting pool now.
(And what's with the "H" names? :lol: Talk about what might suspiciously be viewed as a revisitation with a few mild if specifically focused tweaks
).
Should (when) Mac return(s) to the NYPD, it could be useful to have a character to tap outside the labs/in the private sector (assuming she's not also an NYPD transplant). If they do keep her around, her establishing premise will also have created a unique history between her and Mac that could be useful and interesting; I guess I'm also wondering whether or not he's been interacting with her for the whole four months, and they do have some sort of rapport that will color their dynamic, or whether she's a newer wrench tossed in. I shrug.
I wouldn't worry about a rivalry betwixt techs, not even for screentime, not yet. Perhaps Hannah and Adam encounter one another at some point and partake of flirtation as opposed to competition, which has been done not only with Haylen but Kendall as well; mebbe a fun side arc has her pursuing him, and for once he's the more suave party on screen
. Who knows :lol:. (And hey, Sheldon's apparently taken, Camille an' all, so mebbe here's a chance for Adam to go for someone else, or at least make Hawkes jealous
:lol
It remains to be seen if her approach is gratingly aggressive or whether there resides any charm in her lack of social graces, that might shape how she's welcomed (or not) by viewers.
From Ask Ausiello:
Question: Do you have anything on CSI: NY? —Janie
Ausiello: BTW, word on the street is several pivotal scenes will be shot on location in New York.
Thank gad fer that. Very glad to hear it. A good way to spend part of their budget, and I don't see how a New York - 9/11 ep would really be successful otherwise.
Ooh, another tidbit about the premiere: Mac isn't the only one who will have flashbacks. Sid also thinks back to 9/11.
(It would be interesting if we got to see what all of the NY-based people were doing that day [and Jo too, honestly, since she was presumably in DC]. There's nothing to indicate that they'll all get flashbacks, but I can cross my fingers. Mac and Sid will be very interesting, in any case.)
Yay, Sid!
So glad to hear he'll be back and also given something more to do! Under utilized, is he.
And agree, it would indeed also be nice for everyone in the ep to get material related to their experiences on 9/11, where ever they were, Jo included, notwithstanding that there is an expected focus on Mac's personal story.
"In the present, Mac goes to work at Piper Laboratories, a private DNA lab. He left the New York Crime Lab four months ago..."
:censored:
Do not like! Do not like AT ALL!!!!!
Awww, hey - c'mon, remember now, even "10%" can work miracles...
:lol:
Going by the math of one of NY's other "bold" but uncapitalized efforts, 10% of 18 eps makes for a return by Mac before the second ep concludes
. I expect him back forthwith
.
I like the bold strokes NY has applied, but I doubt it's in service of any lasting alteration to the team. I also appreciate that Mac's state of mind from the S7 finale apparently had an impact on him, but it sounds like it's fortuitous opportunism in carrying it forward, given that the main impetus with all this feels a 9/11 ep. If he changes a bit as a character as a result of all this, while resuming his former functions, I'll be happy enough.
I'm not convinced things will substantially change for what's been teased, that's precisely what a procedural formula lets a show dabble with, without committment or consequences :lol:. Guess we'll find out how they go about putting the apparently scattered pieces back together again.
I also think NY had to be a bit bold, there are bold strokes on other established prime time shows (Jane apparently shooting Red John, Prentiss ain't dead, Doktor Ray is out, SVU has more than a few things going on, etc, I can't keep track of it all :lol
, not to mention a coupla flashy new ones just waiting to grab an audience, yada.
And ya gotta know that the hooha that results from NY deliberately teasing such things generates chatter, something they no doubt looooooove, which is why they do it, inspite of/because it also inevitably upsets someone for some reason or other, every time that they do, round it goes, there's a reason it's called spin...
It would certainly be interesting both to see how Mac would deal with Jo being the boss if he is returning to the lab but not as boss himself
I think that regardless, it will be fun to see the different styles of leadership that will have been running the labs, and that no matter who is functioning in what capacity, the dynamic between Mac and Jo, and between them and the whole team, will be better for it; also that the four months alluded to could really provide lots of opportunities to play to.
Kudos for a S7 finale that let them start where ever they wanted to, kudos for a premiere touching on 9/11, kudos for an alleged four month history interim that has seen several characters stepping up in different directions. On paper, so to speak, it all sounds very promising.
He's (Danny) *way* more interesting when he's out on the street on in the interrogation room with Mac/Flack/Jo than when he's buddied up with Mommy Lindsay in the lab doing Forensic-y Type Things....
What I'd really love to see is for Danny to have to face a situation where a younger cop does something Danny-like and for once *Danny* has to be the one to give out discipline and clean up the mess. It would be even better if Mac comes back as boss of the lab, and Danny goes to him for advice, I think Mac would be quite amused to see the shoe be on the other foot for Danny in that kind of situation.
Agree.
Agree. Did I say that already?
I really like your suggestion about a scenario that would see Danny having to deal with such as he used to instigate. I really hope that being a Sergeant actually gives him a change in material and not just rank.
Is it true that Season 8 will only have 18 episodes?
That's what A.J. said.
Hm. Well, here's hoping the order is added to.
(Might partly depend on schedules, and how other new shows do?)
8.02 "Keep It Real" - I'll be back with more info
ETA: OK, here we go:
8.02 "Keep It Real":
Now for some non-case related things of interest!
~ Mac is back in the lab! That didn't take long. :lol:
...ta-daaaaa :lol:
Lemme guess, NY chronology will also suddenly have the realm in October, and a halloween ep will feature by week 3.
~ Danny and Lindsay have at least one personal scene, and we see how they're adjusting to Danny's promotion.
...yes, so very happy that the promotion is a true Danny storyline and not just a DL device, that it will have obligated altering their carpooling arrangements, that it will mean less time for default type DL crime scene and lab processing cuteness, that each will work with others more, that as a result of new professional roles and responsibilities they'll no longer be joined at the hip... owait - dammit?
("at least one?" :shifty::lol
So, uh, to be clear, what I can look forward to subverting what otherwise retains some promise of interest, is: ep 1, DL. Ep 2, more DL.
...le sigh
~ Jo's son Tyler is back! I don't see much, but I know he and his mom discuss his new roommate.[/INDENT]
Well, glad to see Jo will likely get some personal aspects to play, and if this is just setting up some case-related return by way of a trouble room mate down the road, so much the better.
No!
That's horrible! I was hoping the 9/11 story would run for a few episodes, at least. Mainly because I wanted to see Jo in the boss' chair for an extended amount of time. I don't like it when CSIs get promoted, then demoted again for no reason (like when Catherine got made "Supervisor" during Season 5 and had her own team, then as soon as Grissom said he wanted her back on his, she was demoted and transferred back), I wonder what this means for Detective Danville?
Gotta say, I'm not disappointed. If the premiere is as moving as I hope for and what has been alluded to, that bodes well for the general approach to the season too.
While I do expect a bit of resolution for Mac, I also think it's possible for NY to write him as having been changed a bit by four months away. I also gather that Jo will have been the boss for four months, not an insubstantial amount of time, and that's something that will inevitably affect the whole team. Even if that wraps onscreen to start the season, that it happened can also be referred to, as can Mac's absence. I don't know what NY have schemed, but therein does lie the possibility of changes for each character, which can only help in continuing the new energy that S7 had.
It's early days yet, you'll hafta forgive my optimism
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Thanks for all the pics and spoilers yas all
