Norway attacks

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At least 84 people died when a gunman opened fire at an island youth camp in Norway, hours after a bombing in the capital Oslo killed seven, police say.
Police have charged a 32-year-old Norwegian man over both attacks.
The man dressed as a police officer was arrested on tiny Utoeya island after an hour-long shooting spree.
Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said many people were still looking for their children and had not so far been able to locate them.
He was speaking after meeting victims and relatives with Norway's King Harald, Queen Sonja and Crown Prince Haakon in the town of Sundvollen near the island.


Mr Stoltenberg said he was "deeply touched" by the meetings. "We will do whatever we can to give them as much support as possible," he said.
Earlier he said that he was due to have been on Utoeya - "a youth paradise turned into a hell" - a few hours after the attack took place.
The suspect is reported by local media to have had links with right-wing extremists. He has been named as Anders Behring Breivik. Police searched his Oslo apartment overnight and are questioning him.
The BBC's Richard Galpin, near the island, says that Norway has had problems with neo-Nazi groups in the past but the assumption was that such groups had been largely eliminated and did not pose a significant threat.
Police say they are investigating whether the attacks were the work of one man or whether others helped.
"At Utoeya, the water is still being searched for more victims," deputy police chief Roger Andresen told reporters.
"We have no more information than... what has been found on [his] own websites, which is that it goes towards the right and that it is, so to speak, Christian fundamentalist."


Local media report that police are investigating claims by witnesses that a second person was involved, apparently not disguised in a police uniform.
A farm supply firm has confirmed selling six tonnes of fertiliser to Mr Breivik who is reported to have run a farming company. Speculation has been rife that fertiliser could have been used in the Oslo bomb.
'Posed as policeman' The number killed in the island shooting spree, which is among the world's most deadly, had been put at 10 on Friday - but soared overnight. Hundreds of young people had been attending the summer camp organised by the governing Labour Party on Utoeya island.
Eyewitnesses described how a tall, blond man dressed as a policeman opened fire indiscriminately, prompting camp attendees to jump into the water to try to escape the hail of bullets.
Some of the teenagers were shot at as they tried to swim to safety.
Armed police were deployed to the island but details of the operation to capture the suspect remain unclear. After his arrest he was charged with committing acts of terrorism.
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Police say they discovered many more victims after searching the area around the island. They have warned the death toll may rise further as rescue teams continue to scour the waters around the island.
The gunman is reported to have been armed with a handgun, an automatic weapon and a shotgun.
"He travelled on the ferry boat from the mainland over to that little inland island posing as a police officer, saying he was there to do research in connection with the bomb blasts," NRK journalist Ole Torp told the BBC.
"He asked people to gather round and then he started shooting, so these young people fled into the bushes and woods and some even swam off the island to get to safety."
One 15-year-old eyewitness described how she saw what she thought was a police officer open fire.
"He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water," youth camp delegate Elise told Associated Press.
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In Oslo, government officials urged people to stay at home and avoid central areas of the city.
Shards of twisted metal, rubble and glass littered the streets of central Oslo left devastated by Friday's enormous explosion.
Windows in the buildings of the government quarter were shattered and witnesses described how smoke filled the atmosphere around the blast site.
Mr Stoltenberg said civil servants were among the dead in Oslo and he knew some of those killed.
There are also concerns that more victims may still be inside buildings hit by the initial massive explosion.
Emergency services have had difficulty accessing these buildings, amid concerns about further possible explosions as well as fears the blast may have left buildings unstable.



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Even a mad man, how can anyone go and start to shoot teenagers? And every detail so planned that you cannot even say that he just lost it. There was somewhere line that suspect is willing to explain his actions.


Just. Insane.
 
Your the first one I thought about after hearing this brutal, dreadful news. You do live in Norway right? more insanity, and it can and does happen everywhere. Another crazed manaic:( unbeliveable~
 
Your the first one I thought about after hearing this brutal, dreadful news. You do live in Norway right? more insanity, and it can and does happen everywhere. Another crazed manaic:( unbeliveable~


Nope, I live in Finland. Well it was all over the CNN website too so I guess when someone first makes a bomb and 7 dies and then starts shooting 70 teenagers..

Should have shot himself like the others have done :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Your the first one I thought about after hearing this brutal, dreadful news. You do live in Norway right? more insanity, and it can and does happen everywhere. Another crazed manaic:( unbeliveable~


Nope, I live in Finland. Well it was all over the CNN website too so I guess when someone first makes a bomb and 7 dies and then starts shooting 70 teenagers..

Should have shot himself like the others have done :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

OOPS, sorry:( And he's saying because of the "dominate Muslim population" taking over. Are there alot of Muslims over there? So dumb and so stupid, geez:( he's signed his own death warrant. And he pleaded "not guilty" after admitting he did it HELLO:confused:
 
Should have shot himself like the others have done :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Atleast this way there is some justice for the victims....his lawyer says he's insane. So they'll probably plead insanity.

Apparently he had links to the EDL (English Defence League) . The EDL are just so insane...say that though they condemn what this guy did they think the real issue that government need to deal with is ISLAM. As if Islam is the problem here. With on the focus on Islamic terrorism this shows us that the far right are out there and that some maniacs (like this guy) will be in the mix and commit other atrocities similar to this.

Ducky - how big is the far right movement in Finland?

The problem here is that noone really has ever spoke up about the far right movement and what problems it may cause. People got so caught up in Islamic terrorism that they ignored the growth of the far right throughout north europe. Hopefully governments will take these issue more seriously now.
 
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Ducky - how big is the far right movement in Finland?

I don't know about these extremist. The political party that is most right is True Finns that used to get some 7% and now it's 23% and even they are not, of course not extreme like this, but they are famous for being against foreigners, immigration etc.

Of course we have same amout of nutcases here, who are ready to go with violence but.. I don't know. I don't know why these have become such a big prolem here. some are pissed that we have to change our old traditions because of other religions even those are deep in our culture (and doh, our culture is based on christianity) and the reasons people vote for these.. I don't even know if they all know what some of those MPs are thinking of "we want change, we want to vote for something different" - I mean wtf? Do you even check what are their principles? Programmes?

But in general, I think far right is the same than in other European countries.

And I am not saying every True Finn is bigass racists. But they are in general very against everything foreign, such as EU, money union, immigration, refugees.

Even tho one of the worst comments was made by leader of Christian Party "we should mainly take those refugees that are christians"

I mean wtf?

he's signed his own death warrant.

HLN reported that if found guilty, by Norwegian law, the most he can get is 20 or 21 years in prison... no death penalty.

Exactly. I don't think any European countries use death penalty (which is a great fact)
in Norway 21 is max time.

Hah, we have "life" for extreme cases, but average that they'll spend in jail is 13 yrs. Of course the worst ones are probably closed in some institution for the rest of their lives
 
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