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Gameface, you hit my point of view exactly. While I like most of the CSI characters, I watch this as a procedural crime show, not as a shipper soap heaven. They have a show called Grey's Stupidity for that. I appreciate that the characters on CSI each have a backstory and that it can play...

Wojo, actually, I agree. Ecklie is a better character than the very unidimension "assistant under-sheriff" or whatever that guy is. Ecklie as a character at least has just about enough depth for you to hate him for what he is, rather than just being a cardboard cutout of a protagonist. My...

Well, while the term "unwilling poster child for greedy TV actors " is a bit strong, Jorja deciding not to sign the same extension (with salary increase) that everyone else did was sort of a weird step for her. Basically, she sealed her fate in 2004 and it is just playing out now. I mean, come...

I don't think she will get fired. I am feeling that Sara will "toss herself on her sword" and leave, take a sabbatical, or take another job rather than risk Grissom's job. I am really feeling that Ecklie will be a super hardass on this issue for a few episodes until the situation resolves...

GSR_Sara_Gil: You are correct for somethings. Network TV is facing declining viewership and therefore declining ad revenues. Look at what NBC had to do with the Law and Order franchice. The main show just barely survived another season, SVU makes it another year, and the Criminal Intent is...

Now that Sara has "survived" there are a couple of ways to write her off that are decent and good. I think much of it will revolve around Ecklie and the stink that is being made. The positive that can be taken is that they didn't appear to kill her. That not only means that we get a (probably...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** If this keeps up into episode two, we can rename the show GSI: Grey's Scene Investigation.

Any "group" show that loses a player suffers. But this is a case where Jorja leaving the show as the season goes on is actually not a terrible thing for the show as a whole. let me explain: While season 7 generally was a good season and showed some great depth in the starring cast and the...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** Okay, I took a couple of hours off to consider, and well... I am glad to see I am not the only one who came out of this disappointed to some extent. First and foremost in my mind is that this is pretty much the first time the season has opened in pure...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** I give it about a 5. There are many poorly laid out things in the show, continuality problems, etc. Sara walks away from the car heading up the hill, the footprints in the first are headed away downhill. The car gets lowered onto Sara, yet there is no...

Okay, having just watching the (IMHO disappointing) first episode, I have now see the short trailer for "next episode". I would appear that (1) the team are all asking each other about Grissom and Sara's past relationship, and (2) Ecklie is on the war path. This ain't just going to be shipper...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** Okay, so here goes. Without spoiling it for anyone (even if this is a spoiler thread) let me just say that it isn't CSI's best hour. If this is what is to come for season 8, I am going to have to start watching Greys to get some reality. *disappointed*

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** Zero hour. On now ( 7PM est ) on a feed from East coast of Canada. The good news for CSI fans in Canada is it appears that CSI will not longer be locked to two showings (9PM and midnight EST) but rather 8PM in the local market. That means every hour...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** The networks have not done a very good job this year promoting their season starts, nowhere near what it use to be. Further, the cable networks are running continuous new season, with new programs appears here and there all through the year, which again...

Re: Season Premiere: "Dead Doll" Discussion *SPOILERS* Death is only one of the many options that effectively would remove the Sara character from the show. Death, dismemberment, long term medical care for physical injuries, long term medical care for emotional issues, Sara choosing to go on...

Re: Season Premiere: "Dead Doll" Discussion *SPOILERS* It is another issue of the difference between TV and the real world - in the real world, a different agency would likely be called in to do the work, with the CSI group being excluded because they are involved (and are indirectly victims)...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** Without a threat to life and limb, there would be no real cliffhanger, would there? It is the simplest thing for the writers to put someone in peril, because peril creates tension. I am really feeling that Sara will not be dead (as Grissom would be a...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** There is a huge potential that there is a significant gap in the episodes over this season, as this season opens minutes after the end of last season. They would have to shift time if they intend to work any of the major holidays into a script.

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** CTV is running it 1 hour early because (not shocking) CTV has moved to put Greys in at 9 PM to match the US day and time (as opposed to showing the episodes at least 1 day later). It is another indication that Grey's has powered CSI off of the top of...

Re: "Dead Doll" Discussion **SPOILERS** Grizzom, I suspect that the temporary CSI coming in for 4 or 5 episodes might be to cover Sara's "recovery" time, potentially with Sara hanging by a thread in a hospital somewhere or away somewhere for a while. I think that the potential is that we may...