Episode 10x18 - 'Law & Disorder' ***CONTAINS SPOILERS***

miamifan08 said:

wigster said:

SPOILER: Good episode today. We now understand why Sam joined up with the CSI's, it was because Vogel wanted someone to help split up the CSI's. I think i'm the only one here who actually likes Sam, ok i'm not sure exactly what her role is, but i like her.

There was however one thing that confused me, Esteban Nevarro apparently has now been released. Urm why exactly? As far as i recall, it was Walter, Ryan, Natalia, and Horatio who's evidence was used against Esteban not Sam's, in order to take it to trail. Surely he should still be in prison, and any evidence that Sam had for the case should become Inadmissible in the trail, but not weather it gets taken to trail. That to me doesn't make sense, but then again, I'm not exactly a law expert.

But anyways back to the episode. Horatio didn't seem to get much screen time, which i thought was a bit off, as his team are in serious trouble. Maybe they will make up for it in the finale.

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I was thinking the exact same thing wigster, and my theory on why Estaban is free is that I think Samantha might of handled the evidence that Ryan, Walter, Horatio, and Natalia collected and eventually led to Estaban's arrest. In that way, if Samantha's evidence collection comes into question, everything gets thrown out. But that's just my theory.

I know one thing, It's obvious that Ryan is going to play a major part in the finale and Samantha's the reason why. Kinda feel bad for her after finding out her boyfriend is working for Vogel . But what can you do, this guy kills and blackmails people for a living so his clients can get off scott free.

I wish the promo I saw afterwards for the finale was out there so I can watch it. Two weeks is going to take forever!!

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How do you think five weeks feel for no NY?

daisymay

Gave it a B+. Liked it more by the end than when I started. Too much Sam, not enough H. Really enjoyed Malcolm McDowell, especially his scenes with David

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couldn't agree more:beer: Can't give A, I hoped for a bit more H's screentime
Vogel\H scenes were really good - "Been working on your tan?":lol:

Why Horatio was so hostile to the councilman? He was involved with the victim but it didn't mean he killed her.

Poor Frankie, it was harsh.

nice Eric\Calleigh scenes... but, darn, they're both single, have feelings for each other - go and have your own child for God sake!

As for Sam, we were wrong - she's not a mole but her boyfriend is. So I agree - she's not going anywhere and probably stay as a recurring cast. Not good. As I said before - no offence to her character but there're too many CSI's.

miamifan08

Two weeks is going to take forever!!

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yes, it's ridiculous:scream: this eppi and next one should be aired without any break between them.
I don't get it - what so important will be aired 10 p.m. next sunday? Maybe another Oscar ceremony?

Bellemaria said:

miamifan08

Two weeks is going to take forever!!

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yes, it's ridiculous:scream: this eppi and next one should be aired without any break between them.
I don't get it - what so important will be aired 10 p.m. next sunday? Maybe another Oscar ceremony?

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According to Zap2it, Country Music Awards.

EDIT: For those who watched the episode, was there anything on NY coming back? I checked OD because my mom has already deleted the Miami episode she was watching.

According to Zap2it, Country Music Awards.

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great Heavens!

Loved it!! I gave it an A.

Malcolm McDowell was terrific and I love his interaction with Horatio. The hiring of the hitwoman and poisoing was very creative. The assistant lawyer taking the fall for him really shows what a powerful and intimidating presence he is. I hope the team can take both him and Esteban Navarro out in the next episode.

The E/C stuff was as I expected, but it didn't overshadow the main plotline. Eric is soooooooo nosy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad Sam is nearing the end of her run. I never cared for her and it's well past time for her to leave. From the preview for the next episode, I suspect Ryan will try to help her clear her name and end up in hot water himself. Horatio looked very disappointed... I wonder what he did.

I can't believe the next episode is already our season finale!

I liked the episode. Wasn't really amused with no Ryan until about 40 minutes in, but since it looks like next week will be focused on him, I won't complain too much. (Even though yet again he's getting in trouble.)

I liked the EC scene, it didn't take over the whole episode, it was just one simple scene. I feel bad for Eric though since imo it's obvious he still loves Cal, but oh well.

I figured it would be Sam's boyfriend helping at the end. And I love Malcolm McDowell. He's been on The Mentalist a lot this season as well and plays a bad guy on that too, he's so good at it.

I gave the episode an A. Really hoping the finale is good and doesn't end on a cliffy. :/

Great episode IMO. A lot going on between all the characters.

There could have been more Horatio but the scenes he had were great, especially the ones with Malcom McDowell. I couldn't help but laugh at him making fun of Horatio, calling him grumpy and such. :lol:

The CSIs sure did get beaten up a bit in this episode. Frank got the crap beaten out of him and Eric got slapped, lol. Eric's not been doing too good with women lately. He wanted to help Calleigh adopt the North kids but she said no...I wonder if this will change in the finale...?

I honestly thought it was Sam the whole time who was sabotaging the evidence, but it was her boyfriend and now Ryan will be her knight in shining armor and try to help her!

Esteban released from prison? WHAT THE HECK? :scream: If there is a Season 11, I'm now 99% sure that the Navarro family will be back. Also, when Malcom McDowell's character was telling the press how Sam mishandled the evidence and that it shows that the hole team may not be doing what they're supposed to, I immediately though of the phrase "a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link." That weak link is Sam, so she should die...LOL. Not really.

2 weeks until the (hopefully season) finale, I can't wait!!! :thumbsup:

This is the first episode in a while that I've gotten the opportunity to watch all the way when it was aired through let alone comment on. I did watch last weeks (which I had on my PVR) so hopefully I won't let the two confused.:lol:

Random Thoughts:

Well, only a 18 minute delay this week. Beats last week's 43 minutes:wtf:

Huh, it took almost 40 minutes before we saw Ryan. What was there was good though.

I don't like him with Sam. When the revelation came to light that Sam's ADA boyfriend was the one causing the problems, and Sam thought she was finished, and Ryan offered to help, I was screaming "No Ryan!! Run, don't walk in the opposite direction"!! Hopefully, Sam will be gone soon. I would rather see Natalia instead.

Poor Frank. He got quite the slap down.

Malcolm McDowell does evil and slimy so well. I love watching him butt heads with Horatio

Calleigh and Eric's scene was nice and understated.

CSI's making mistakes--unlike them and I think it is going to come back and haunt them

Not looking forward to Ryan in trouble again--been there, done that:angryrazz::brickwall: Can't we give Ryan quality screentime without him being in trouble?!!

I wondered how Vogel was going to wiggle his way out of trouble and having his assistant falling on the sword answered my question.

Not too bad of an eppie. Looking forward to what the season finale has to bring. I fear a clifthanger with poor Ryan caught in the middle

This was a really good episode. Vogel is downright obnoxious and sneaky so it's interesting to watch him be going against the team. His scenes with H were great. Poor Eric got kind of smacked around a lot during this episode lol. But I'm glad he didn't let it get under his skin.

So Sam is not a mole but the boyfriend is. And Natalia wasn't suspecting about her being a mole but just plain doesn't like her. So if Eva leaves, it's very probable she sticks around, meh I still don't like her.

Eric and Calleigh together were great. I love how happy she is with this adoption. I hope Eric does help her out and they get a happy ending. Especially if Miami is not coming back.

Gave it an A.

So Sam is not a mole but the boyfriend is. And Natalia wasn't suspecting about her being a mole but just plain doesn't like her. So if Eva leaves, it's very probable she sticks around, meh I still don't like her.

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Don't let Sam off the hook yet

Huh, it took almost 40 minutes before we saw Ryan. What was there was good though.

I don't like him with Sam. When the revelation came to light that Sam's ADA boyfriend was the one causing the problems, and Sam thought she was finished, and Ryan offered to help, I was screaming "No Ryan!! Run, don't walk in the opposite direction"!! Hopefully, Sam will be gone soon. I would rather see Natalia instead.

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Definitely agree.
Surprised the episode ended with Ryan and Sam but after seeing the finale promo it was actually perfect.

gotta love not having tv... so im late to the party once again...
next episode summary is


really wish i held off on this week's episode... i would rather watch the other part with it because cliffhangers absolutely kill me...

by the way... did everyone hear that eva is probably leaving csi for abc?

maybe Eva leaving is why there is so much samantha owen ? maybe there will be a season 11 but Eva on a strictly p/t basis? too little Horatio I agree and now to have to wait so long to see the finale oh well....am thinking this whole season was a tad disappointing except the first episode and that was a 2nd parter of a cliffy from last season...

maybe Eva leaving is why there is so much samantha owen ?

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Who said Eva was leaving? Just because she did a pilot for a new show doesn't mean she's leaving Miami. The pilot may not even be picked up. She's just trying to cover her bases in case Miami doesn't get picked up. She has an option to stay on the new series as a regular, that doesn't mean she will take it.


Okay, onto the episode:

Eric and Nat were both wearing turquoise.

Um, didn't Eric meet Vogel in the LA episode? Why did Vogel ask who he was?

Vogel to H: You're such a grouch. Cheer up. Have a nice day. (Looks at Eric) You... I don't care. Wow, that was rude!

Natalia reads shorthand? It looks like a bunch of squiggly lines to me LOL.

Ryan's wearing turquoise too. Sam and Josh are coordinated in orange. Walter's in orange and Vogel has a turquoise tie. So I guess the colors of this episode are orange and turquoise. Which, oddly enough are the Miami Dolphins football team's colors if I recall.

At first when I saw the preview for this episode, I thought it was Sam compromising the evidence, but the watch on the hand they showed looked masculine, so that threw me off. When I saw Josh in the lab coat, I knew it would be him.

Personally, I think tptb were originally going to have it be Sam, but some of us viewers figured that out. That's when they came out with this all of a sudden spoilers about her having an ADA boyfriend or whatever. So, they switched it to him since we had it all figured out.

I don't know guys, I don't think Sam will kill anybody... Her boyfriend is a betrayed and even she is??? Too easy, that would be one way to put her out of the show, but I can't see her kill somebody...

GregNickRyanFan said:

Um, didn't Eric meet Vogel in the LA episode? Why did Vogel ask who he was?

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Yes, they did meet in L.A. Vogel probably did that to show Eric how unimportant he was to him.