H1N1 Flu Virus

[Florry86]

In all honesty I don't get why people get all frantic because of this is flu which is more or less like the normal flue. The only problem I can find with it is that mostly young people get it because of their age, but this doesn't mean that we all should get frantic and scream because of it. Yes it is pandemic ( no way to deny it), but it is lethal exactly like any other kind of flu. Plus statistics in Italy have proven that people die more because of car crashes and normal flue rather than this flue. Not to mention that we have a rat ("topo Gigio" ) from a popular Italian cartoon telling us on TV some rules to prevent the flu and telling us also that we shouldn't get worried as H1N1 Flu is a normal flu.
So I do consider it as a normal flu also because of the symptoms.....I swear I wouldn't be that surprised, if I discovered I got that flu 2 weeks ago because that's how my friends got it as well LOL.

As for the vaccine, I work on ambulances and in my country I'm not considered part of the risk group ( I can be considered it because of my age, but not because of my job ) and, in all honestly, I don't care because 60% of the doctors who HAVE this opportunity won't get their shot because they consider it useless. So why should I take a shot when even M.Ds refuse to take their own? It is just stupid, IMHO

[allmaple]

i dont think h1n1 is in grenada yet, but i do know it is in trinidad and bahamas. i know lots of people have died from this particular strain, but still thousands die every year from the various strains of influenza so im not sure why this one gets more attention.

im sure it is only a matter of time before it gets here, and i know i will be hassled once again when i go through trinidad to get home for christmas. i havent done anything differently, i wash my hands all the time and carry hand sanitizer because i am always petting the animals on campus and we are currently working with the cows every week. i will get the flu shot when i go home, but i get that every year anyway.

honestly, im more worried about getting worms from the stray cats i am fostering right now

[.speed.delko.]

Well, the weird thing is everyone I know and people they know seemed to get it two weeks after I had it! :S So I was somewhat expecting to get it weekend before last seeing a couple friends, my sister's co-worker and some of the children at her work PLUS my old school which I visited were down with the flu. Sure, they weren't there but that doesn't mean their classmates/teachers didn't have it or weren't about to get it themselves.

But last month, I pretty much spent the last two weeks of August and first week and half of September at home watching DVDs and writing! I barely even went out and if I did, it was only for a minute to run down the street! That's why I am baffled

[Sam222]

Originally posted by Duckenstein

I think it has something to do with tourists, but how come Helsinki isn't that bad? And of course army bases etc. are "perfect" from something like this

(and as a sidenote...now how I've missed another Finn here... hmm. Perhaps I've just forgot...and if you spend time at NYsection - then it explains.. I don't like it's hostile enviroment )

it was rather funny that the night I got home, I watched the news and it said about the Laplands situation Didn't hear about it when I was there...

I agree with the tourists thing. I dunno about that Helsinki thing either...it's really strange I mean it's the capital and all. One would think the thole thing would blow up in there and spread then to the other areas.

(to your sidenote: I just heard myself about couple months ago that in here is a another Finn in here. Cool! Yup I'm hard CSI:NY fan...*well my avatar might tell that too.* I don't visit in CSI or CSI:Miami sections "that often" So that indeed might explain. )

Yeah I heard about Laplands situation about the news when I was having my holiday week. Whoa it's really strange that you haven't heard about it in case you were there. I guess media has its hands on this thing again...Larger things as usual...

[Jacquie]

One of the problems with the H1N1 flu is that it can be transferred from animal to people as well as people to animal. The concern among the medical communities is the transfer from people to people. If the infected people don't take the precautions then they will spread it around.

Here in Ontario we've had a turkey farm infected with the H1N1 virus. The turkeys were infected by a worker who had the virus.

[CSI_Kat]

I have honestly not done anything about it and I doubt I will. I don't believe I have ever gotten a flu shot in my life and I know my son never has. Honestly I don't think I know anyone who has gotten the H1N1 flu.

[.speed.delko.]

I've had the flu thrice within the past seven years. The first time I ever got a flu, was seven years ago when I'd just turned 17. An idiot came to school, down with the flu. A whole bunch of us were out sick.

I know I might not get it for another several years (which I hope I don't ever get again, actually!) I took the flu shot today. And I'm going to get the H1N1 shot sometimes in November.

I've never been prone to getting anything but colds, and 85% the time my colds just last for a few hours until I go to sleep. When I wake up in the morning, I'm back to normal.

[blackflag]

We aren't worrying about H1N1 shots for me and my mother but we are getting the shots for the kids. Their doctors office called Friday and we can make appointments for them to get the H1N1 shot. Unfortunately that's going to cost $15 per kid (co-pay because they're not doing it with a clinic this time) but what can be done. We've had schools in surrounding towns close down for a week because a third of the students and half the teachers are out with flu like symptoms. If we keep them from getting it then we shouldn't get it.

Susan

[Flack-Angell]

I took the vaccine today :] My arm hurts. XD

[Jacquie]

We went and got our vaccines today. Yup the arm hurts but it should be so worth it. The wait time wasn't bad. From arriving at the clinic we were in and out in 1 hour.

The clinics here are really clamping down and only letting in the high risk cases. It's all on a honour system and I hope people honestly won't lie jsut to get a shot.

[Criminologist86]

I SURVIVED SWINE 09!!!

I had swine flu, my best friend has it now, and I lived I have to say you NEVER feel worse than you do with swine...it's NOT fun, but it's no different than a bout of regular flu.

NO vaccines here- I don't believe in them...cause more harm than good...check this article out from my Aunt a D.C. Hope nobody here gets it, and if you do, feel better SOON! <3

The H1N1 swine flu vaccines currently being given to schoolchildren in America were approved by the FDA using an unlawful waiver that allowed the vaccines to be approved with absolutely no credible scientific testing. No adequate safety or efficacy testing has been conducted on any of the swine flu vaccines, and those children who are being injected with the vaccines are being treated as human guinea pigs.

H1N1 swine flu has also turned out to be so mild that it can be easily overcome with a healthy immune system aided by healthy levels of circulating vitamin D. My child takes vitamin D supplementation and therefore has an extremely healthy, active immune system that can easily mount its own antibody response against swine flu or other forms of influenza. Because of his immune system health and nutritional regimen, my child poses no health threat as a "carrier" of the swine flu, even without being vaccinated. http://www.naturalnews.com/027394_sw...es_health.html

[luf100]

They aren't giving out any vaccines here except to the "priority group" which is like, pregnant woman, and babies and stuff, since they don't have even close to enough of it.

Our next door neighbour had it, he was delirious and everything. They took him to the hospital and got it confirmed. They quarantined him in their basement because they have a little baby, and his dad had to wear a mask to go down and give him pills and all.

My brother was really sick a week ago too and since he's in the same class as my neighbour we think he probably had it, but not as bad. Also it said on our news channel that even though it's not getting confirmed for everyone (obviously) that most of the people getting sick around now do have H1N1 because it's not even the normal time for the regular flu yet.

Anyways, none of my other family members or I have gotten sick yet so we probably won't even bother getting the shot. And since we can't get it anytime soon anyway, we'll either get sick before we can get the shot, or we won't get it at all.

[myfuturecsi]

My daughter's father had it and it wasn't too bad for him. But now she's sick and the doctor told us it was too soon to tell.

She's miserable though.

[Destiny]

I got the regular flu vac but not this one, I had the chance to get it, and I would fall into the catagory, as does my father but we both put it off as we feel though we fall into the catagories of need it. We did so because we felt that others (kids, pregnancy, oxygen, etc) needed it more and we could wait.

We take the precautions, Lysol (sprays, wipes, potty cleaner, so on and so on), antibactierial soap (Soft soap), hot water, (I don't care for the hand gels feel sticky), plenty of fluides, veggies, etc.

If it comes out at my docs office and he believes that it is really necessary, or there is plenty then we will get it.

I remember hearing one time I think it was fox news, could have been CNN that some parents wanted to hold H1N1 parties, sort of the chicken pox, etc parties where people cram into one room with a person who has it then they all get it and then they go through it together and then get over it and be immuned to it. Not sure if they ever did it, but it was advised on the news segment not to do it, as it could be worse.

[Shytownmofo]

The problem is that you have to wait about a month after you have the regular shot to get the H1N1 shot.

I'm not sure about the vaccine not being tested. I'm googling, and I can't find anything concrete. I do know if I had a kid, I would do my best to make sure he or she got one without Mercury in it.

Really, Vaccination is only one avenue to deal with the flu. Even the H1N1. The best thing is just to take universal precautions, like not picking your nose or rubbing your eyes, using a tissue to wipe/blow your nose, hand washing, including Hand Sanitizers, wiping down commonly used surfaces with antibacterial wipes or bleach water, and not going out if you're sick.

The precautions mentioned above are pretty much good for everything. Colds, Flu, and even the Pinkeye, which is a lot more common than people would suspect. Having had the pinkeye, it's awful, and just as bad, if not worse than the flu.

[*lisasimpson*]

Originally Posted by Florry86

In all honesty I don't get why people get all frantic because of this is flu which is more or less like the normal flue. The only problem I can find with it is that mostly young people get it because of their age, but this doesn't mean that we all should get frantic and scream because of it. Yes it is pandemic ( no way to deny it), but it is lethal exactly like any other kind of flu. Plus statistics in Italy have proven that people die more because of car crashes and normal flue rather than this flue. Not to mention that we have a rat ("topo Gigio" ) from a popular Italian cartoon telling us on TV some rules to prevent the flu and telling us also that we shouldn't get worried as H1N1 Flu is a normal flu.
So I do consider it as a normal flu also because of the symptoms.....

this, basically. i'm quite surprised to suddenly be hearing from people i know in the us and canada that swine flu mania is only just taking off. here in the uk we've had every little sniffle rammed down our throats by our nannyist government and hysterical media for months. what bothers me is this:

1 - there are new strains of flu every year. some worse than "normal" flu, some less, there isn't usually this panic, even though i'm sure some strains have been just as bad

2 - getting everyone worked up just causes unnecessary panic, suddenly people think every time they sneeze that they're about to drop dead (ok, ok, i realise men do this anyway... ) - good government is about preventing panic, not creating it (although i suppose since blair and bush rewrote the rulebook on the politics of fear that might be irrelevant).

3 - so called "normal" flu kills more people annually just in the uk than swine flu has killed globally so far. where is the concern about preventing normal flu? where is the concern for health and safety measures, for preventative measures in public, especially hospitals, any normal year when flu is just as deadly? the global death toll from swine flu as of today is just above 6000 - which really is very very low. sadly i can't find stats on the usual uk flu death toll because if you try to search on that you only get results for swine flu, which just proves my point about mass hysteria.

i usually get a flu jab as a matter of course because my medical conditions allegedly make me high risk or some such crap. this year i forgot to get it and now i'm kinda glad, because i feel like i've made a stand against the idiotic hysteria of governments the world over. or something. probably something

quite frankly, i don't give a crap if it kills me, and as for it kiliing others - until and unless it reaches the proportions of spanish flu in 1918-1919, i am not going to be worried.

[Destiny]

I had my regular flu shot at the end of sept. There was a tv news show (It might have been local for me) that talked about how it was tested and all that, if you want I can look it up and find it. See if they have video on it.

Cleveland Fox 8 news
Cleveland 3
Google How is the H1N1 Vaccine Tested

I found these three the second link if you go down tell about those parties I mentioned as well as info. I know there was a local story on it I can't find it right now *might be the need for more coffee lol*

[happyharper13]

I'm not getting the big panic either. It feels like West Nile and SARS all over again, except West Nile actually made me sad because it wiped out most of the crows in the DC area. Still, neither ended up actually killing many people.

My brother got swine flu a few weeks ago. It sucked, and he sure didn't feel great, plus it really messed up his cross-country season. Still, it wasn't that bad -- definitely not that different from the flu. The fact that it seems to mainly hurt us younger people seems like a good thing if anything, since the elderly (more 70/80+) tend to have worse immune systems. Young people are more likely to be healthy enough to fight it off. My school also got quite a few cases (I'd like to say it was over 100). People were blaming it on the Harvard "eating club" and MIT frat boys At least one of my friends was stuck on quarantine. Still, it all seemed like a bit of an overreaction.

[*lisasimpson*]

^ yeah, i know a few people that have had it. they got flu, they felt like crap for a couple of weeks, they got better. whoopdedoo.

[Ducky]

Here it's been huge fuss about vaccines, because they make priority groups. I could get shot next week if I want, but won't take it. In bigger cities, there has been chaos in health care centres and nurses have been threated because they've been sometimes out of vaccines.

And all because of media causin the hysteric athmosphere.

Earlier this week there was big headlines for 8-year-old girl dying because of swineflu. Well, kid had pneumonia at the same time. And this was the case where hospital really screwed up because they refused to take her in ( well I do understand people overreacting and docs being really busy but still)

Both deaths that Finland has had, they've had some other serious illness as well.